Covariant derivative Definition and 167 Threads
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Covariant Derivative Commutation
Hello, Can anyone tell me the general formula for commuting covariant derivatives, I mean, given a (r,s)-tensor field what is the formula to commute covariant derivatives? I found a formula http://pt.scribd.com/doc/25834757/21/Commuting-covariant-derivatives page 25, Eq.6.18 but it doesn't...- PLuz
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- Commutation Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative
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Covariant Derivative derivation.
Homework Statement Using the Leibniz rule and: \nabla_{c}X^{a}=\partial_{c}X^a+\Gamma_{bc}^{a}X^b \nabla_{a}\Phi=\partial\Phi Show that \nabla_c X_a = \partial_c X_a - \Gamma^{b}_{ac}X_{b} . The question is from Ray's Introducing Einsteins relativity, My attempt...- T-chef
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- Covariant Covariant derivative Derivation Derivative
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Weird version of covariant derivative on wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four-force At the bottom of that page, the author provides the generalization of four force in general relativity, where the partial derivative is replaced with the covariant derivative. However if you notice on the second term in the third equality, there is a...- GarageDweller
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- Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative Weird Wikipedia
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Covariant Derivative and metric tensor
Hi all, I am wondering if it is possible to derive the definition of a Christoffel symbols using the Covariant Derivative of the Metric Tensor. If yes, can I get a step-by-step solution? Thanks! Joe W.- GRstudent
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- Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative Metric Metric tensor Tensor
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Covariant derivative of a vector field
Homework Statement Show that \nabla_a(\sqrt{-det\;h}S^a)=\partial_a(\sqrt{-det\;h}S^a) where h is the metric and S^a a vector. Homework Equations \nabla_a V^b = \partial_a V^b+\Gamma^b_{ac}V^c \Gamma^a_{ab} = \frac{1}{2det\;h}\partial_b\sqrt{det\;h} \nabla_a\sqrt{-det\;h} (is that...- physicus
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- Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative Field Vector Vector field
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Parallel propagator and covariant derivative of vector
Hi all, I'm trying to figure out the link between the connection coefficients (Christoffel symbols), the propagator, and the coordinate description of the covariant derivative with the connection coefficients. As in...- ianhoolihan
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- Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative Parallel Propagator Vector
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Christoffel Symbol / Covariant derivative
Homework Statement My teacher solved this in class but I'm not understanding some parts of tis solution. Show that \nabla_i V^i is scalar. Homework Equations \nabla_i V^i = \frac{\partial V^{i}}{\partial q^{i}} + \Gamma^{i}_{ik} V^{k} The Attempt at a Solution To start this...- cristina89
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- Christoffel Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative Symbol
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Whats the physical meaning of a covariant derivative?
Hi there! I saw this exercise that we have to calculate the covariant derivative of a vector field (in polar coordinates). Most of them equals zero, but two of them are non-zero, sugesting that this vector field is not constant. What i want to understand is the physical meaning of this values...- faeriewhisper
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Help Covariant Derivative of Ricci Tensor the hard way.
[SIZE="5"]I am trying to calculate the covariant derivative of the Ricci Tensor the way Einstein did it, but I keep coming up with \nabla_{μ}R_{αβ}=\frac{∂}{∂x^{μ}}R_{αβ}-2\Gamma^{α}_{μ\gamma}R_{αβ} or...- nobraner
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- Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative Hard Ricci tensor Tensor
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Covariant derivative of connection coefficients?
The connection \nabla is defined in terms of its action on tensor fields. For example, acting on a vector field Y with respect to another vector field X we get \nabla_X Y = X^\mu ({Y^\alpha}_{,\mu} + Y^\nu {\Gamma^\alpha}_{\mu\nu})e_\alpha = X^\mu {Y^\alpha}_{;\mu}e_\alpha and we call...- pellman
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- Coefficients Connection Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative
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Calculating divergence using covariant derivative
Homework Statement Using the definition of divergence d(i_{X}dV) = (div X)dV where X:M\rightarrow TM is a vector field, dV is a volume element and i_X is a contraction operator e.g. i_{X}T = X^{k}T^{i_{1}...i_{r}}_{kj_{2}...j_{s}}, prove that if we use Levi-Civita connection then the...- v2536
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- Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative Divergence
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Commutation property of covariant derivative
My book defines the covariant derivative of a tangent vector field as the directional derivative of each component, and then we subtract out the normal component to the surface. I am a little confused about proving some properties. One of them states: If x(u, v) is an orthogonal patch, x_u...- demonelite123
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- Commutation Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative Property
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Covariant derivative of coordinates
Hi, I am familiar with the covariant derivative of the tangent vector to a path, \nabla_{\alpha}u^{\beta} and some interesting ways to use it. I am wondering about \nabla_{\alpha}x^{\beta}=\frac{\partial x^\beta}{\partial...- jfy4
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- Coordinates Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative
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Covariant derivative of Lie-Bracket in normal orthonormal frame
Hi there, I was doing some calculations with tensors and ran into a result which seems a bit odd to me. I hope someone can validate this or tell me where my mistake is. So I have a normal orthonormal frame field \{E_i\} in the neighbourhood of a point p in a Riemannian manifold (M,g), i.e...- holy_toaster
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- Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative Frame Normal
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Covariant derivative from connections
On a 2 dimensional Riemannian manifold how does one derive the covariant derivative from the connection 1 form on the tangent unit circle bundle?- lavinia
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- Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative
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Covariant Derivative: Different for Vectors, Spinors & Matrices?
The covariant derivative is different in form for different tensors, depending on their rank. What about other mathematical entities? The electromagnetic field A is a vector, but it has complex values. Is the covariant derivative different for complex valued vectors? And what about...- thehangedman
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- Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative
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Covariant derivative of stress-energy tensor
hi, I understand that Tab,b=0 because the change in density equals the negative divergence, but why do the christoffel symbols vanish for Tab;b=0?- solveforX
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- Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative Stress-energy tensor Tensor
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Covariant derivative of riemann tensor
what would Rabcd;e look like in terms of it's christoffels? or Rab;c- solveforX
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- Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative Riemann Riemann tensor Tensor
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Covariant Derivative: Understanding $\partial_i e_j=\Gamma^{k}_{ij} e_k$
How can the derivative of a basis vector at a point be the linear combination of tangent vectors at that point? For example, if you take a sphere, then the derivative of the polar basis vector with respect to the polar coordinate is in the radial direction. How can something in the radial...- RedX
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- Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative
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Covariant derivative vs Gauge Covariant derivative
As you may guess from the title this question is about the covariant derivatives, more precisely about the difference between the usual covariant derivative, the one used in General Relativity defined by:\nabla_{e_{\mu}}=\left(\frac{\partial v^{\beta}} {\partial...- lennyleonard
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- Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative Gauge
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Basis + covariant derivative question
My apologies about lack of precision in nomenclature. So I wanted to know how to express a certain idea about choice of basis on a manifold... Let's suppose I am solving a reaction-diffusion equation with finite elements. If I consider a surface that is constrained to lie in a flat plane or...- 7thSon
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- Basis Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative
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Verifying identity involving covariant derivative
i am trying to verify the following identity: 0 = ∂g_mn / ∂y^p + Γ ^s _pm g_sn + Γ ^r _pn g_mr where Γ is the christoffel symbol with ^ telling what is the upper index and _ telling what are the two lower indices. g_mn is the metric tensor with 2 lower indices and y^p is the component of y...- demonelite123
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- Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative Identity
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What is the physical meaning of metric compatibility and why is it important?
What exactly is the physical meaning of the fact that the covariant derivative of the metric tensor vanishes?- TrickyDicky
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- Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative Metric
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Covariant derivative in gauge theory
Is the following formula correct? Suppose we work in a 4D Euclidean space for a certain gauge theory, \int d^4x~ \text{tr}\Big(D_i(\phi X_i )\Big) = \oint d^3S_i~ \text{tr}(\phi X_i) and, \int d^4x~\partial_j \text{tr}(\phi F_{mn}\epsilon_{mnij}) = \oint d^2S_j~ \text{tr}(\phi...- ismaili
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- Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative Gauge Gauge theory Theory
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Covariant derivative of an anti-symmetric tensor
Given an antisymmetric tensor T^{ab}=-T^{ab} show that T_{ab;c} + T_{ca;b} + T_{bc;a} = 0 If I explicitly write out the covariant derivative, all terms with Christoffel symbols cancel pair-wise, and I'm left to demonstrate that T_{ab,c} + T_{ca,b} + T_{bc,a} = 0 and this I...- Irid
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- Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative Tensor
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How Do I Delete a Thread on a Website or Forum?
Edit: Solved Don't know how to delete thread though!- latentcorpse
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- Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative
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General Relativity - Double Covariant Derivative
I know that for a scalar \nabla^2\phi=\nabla_a\nabla^a\phi=\nabla^a\nabla_a\phi. However what is \nabla^2 for a tensor? For example, is \nabla^2T_a=\nabla_b\nabla^bT_a or is it \nabla^2T_a=\nabla^b\nabla_bT_a? Because I don't think they're the same thing. Thanks.- Tangent87
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- Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative General General relativity Relativity
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Covariant derivative in spherical coordinate
I am confused with the spherical coordinate. Say, in 2D, the polar coordinate (r, \theta) The mathworld website says that http://mathworld.wolfram.com/SphericalCoordinates.html D_k A_j = \frac{1}{g_{kk}} \frac{\partial A_j}{\partial x_k} - \Gamma^i_{ij}A_i I don't know why we...- ismaili
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- Coordinate Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative Spherical
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Covariant derivative and vector functions
So given this identity: [V,W] = \nablaVW-\nablaWV ^^I got the above identity from O'Neil 5.1 #9. From this I'm not sure how to make the jump with vector functions, or if it is even possible to apply that definition to a vector function [xu,xv].- tom.young84
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- Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative Functions Vector
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Covariant derivative and geometry of tensors
I'm trying to teach myself GR from Wald's General Relativity, and it's very tough going. I do have basic knowledge of differential geometry, but I think my geometric intuition is next to nonexistent. I'd very much appreciate some help in understanding several basic questions, or pointers to...- avorobey
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- Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative Geometry Tensors
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Covariant derivative of the metric
hello! just a quick question, does the covariant derivative of the metric give zero even when the indices(one of the indices) of the metric are(is) raised? also another question not entirely related, does the covariant deriv. of exp(2 phi) where phi is the field, also give zero or not...- vitaniarain
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- Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative Metric
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Understanding Covariant Derivative: d Explained
I get in essence what the covariant derivative is, and what it does, but I am having trouble with the definition, of all things.\nabla_{\alpha}T^{\beta\gamma}=\frac{\partial{T^{\beta\gamma}}}{\partial{x^{\alpha}}}+\Gamma^{\beta}_{d\alpha}T^{d\gamma}+\Gamma^{\gamma}_{d\alpha}T^{\beta d} Im good...- TromboneNerd
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- Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative
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Covariant derivative vs. Lie derivative
Hey there, For quite some time I've been wondering now whether there's a well-understandable difference between the Lie and the covariant derivative. Although they're defined in fundamentally different ways, they're both (in a special case, at least) standing for the directional derivative of...- Quchen
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- Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative Lie derivative
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Covariant derivative of the Christoffel symbol
Homework Statement Is the covariant derivative of a Christoffel symbol equal to zero? It seems like it would be since it is composed of nothing but metrics, and the covariant derivative of any metric is zero, right?- redstone
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- Christoffel Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative Symbol
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Lie derivative versus covariant derivative
When calculating the derivative of a vector field X at a point p of a smooth manifold M, one uses the Lie derivative, which gives the derivative of X in the direction of another vector field Y at the same point p of the manifold. If the manifold is a Riemannian manifold (that is, equipped...- RedX
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- Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative Lie derivative
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Interpretation of the covariant derivative
Is this the right way to think about the covariant derivative, and if not, what improvements would you suggest to visualize the meaning of the covariant derivative? (1)\mbox{ }\vec{e}_i(x')=\vec{e}_i(x)+\frac{\partial \vec{e}_i(x)}{\partial x^j}dx^j...- RedX
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- Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative Interpretation
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Covariant Derivative: Definition & Meaning
Hello everyone, While studying properties of Riemann and tensor and Killing vectors, I found this notation/concept that I'm not sure of it's meaning. What does it mean to have a covariant derivative, using semi-colon notation, showing in upper index position. Is it just a matter of raising...- salparadise
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- Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative
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What Is the Covariant Derivative and How Can It Be Visualized?
Hello! I registered here today because I'm quite curious about the covariant derivative, and although I've consulted several texts on the subject (and wikipedia, and other locations), I've found it somewhat difficult to piece together a visual understanding of the covariant derivative. The...- Einsteinsqd
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- Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative
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Metric and Covariant Derivative
I've seen read a lot of books where they use different sign conventions for the metric and the covariant derivative. I'd like to ask the physics community the following questions: I've seen both, the (+, -, -, -) and (-, +, +, +), conventions used for the metric, and I've also seen both...- TriTertButoxy
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- Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative Metric
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Covariant derivative in polar coordinates
I calculated the christoffel symbols and know that I have them right. I want to take the covariant derivative of the basis vector field e_{r} on the curve s(t) = (a, t/a). I differentiate it and get s' = (0, 1/a) and according to the metric, this is a unit vector because a will always be equal...- aPhilosopher
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- Coordinates Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative Polar Polar coordinates
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Covariant derivative transformation
Homework Statement The problem concerns how to transform a covariant differentiation. Using this formula for covariant differentiation and demanding that it is a (1,1) tensor: \nabla_cX^a=\partial_cX^a+\Gamma^a_{bc}X^b it should be proven that \Gamma'^a_{bc}=...- faklif
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- Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative Transformation
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Help Needed: Rewriting Covariant Derivative to Killing Equations
A little stuck while working through a derivation. Hope someone can help. Homework Statement Starting from -\xi^c(\Gamma^d_{ca}g_{db}+\Gamma^d_{cb}g_{ad})+\partial_b\xi^dg_{ad}+\partial_a\xi^cg_{cb}=0 I need to obtain the Killing equations, i.e...- trv
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Trouble understanding derivation of covariant derivative
Hi, I'm having problems following a derivation for the covariant derivative. I've shown the line where I'm having trouble: http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/49/covariantderivative.jpg The general argument being used is that if the covariant derivative must follow the product rule it can...- bibalasvegas
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- Covariant Covariant derivative Derivation Derivative
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Newtonian limit of covariant derivative of stress-energy tensor(schutz ch7)
Homework Statement For a perfect fluid verify that the spatial components of T^{\mu \nu};_{\nu} = 0 in the Newtonian limit reduce to (\rho v^{i}),_{t} + (\rho v^{i} v^{j}),_{j} + P,_{i} + \rho \phi ,_{i} Homework Equations Metric ds^{2} = -(1+2 \phi )dt^{2} + (1-2 \phi) (dx^{2} +...- Mmmm
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- Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative Limit Newtonian
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Covariant derivative repect to connection?
Could anyone tell me about the covariant derivative with respect to the connection?- noomz
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- Connection Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative
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Directional covariant derivative
Is this correct? \nabla _{\vec{p}} \vec{p} = (\nabla_a \vec{p} ) p^a =< (\nabla_a p^0 ) p^a, (\nabla_a p^1 ) p^a , (\nabla_a p^2 ) p^a, (\nabla_a p^3 ) p^a > (where the a's are summed from 0 to 3)- snoopies622
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- Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative
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Yang-Mills covariant derivative
In developing the Yang-Mills Lagrangian, Wikipedia defines the covariant derivative as \ D_ \mu = \partial _\mu + A _\mu (x) . Is A_mu to be taken as a 1-form, so that \ D _\mu \Phi = \partial _\mu \Phi + A _\mu (x) or an operator on \Phi, such that \ D _\mu \Phi = \partial...- Phrak
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- Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative Yang-mills
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The Exterior Covariant Derivative: Understanding Connections and Fibre Bundles
Can you give me the definition of exterior covariant derivative or any reference web page ? Wiki does not involve enough info.I am not able to do calculation with respect to given definition there. Thanks in advance- matness
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- Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative
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Intuition for Covariant derivative of a Tensor Field
Hi. I am attempting to gain some intuition for what the covariant derivative of a tensor field is. I have a good intuition about the covariant derivative of vector fields (measuring how the vector changes as you move in a particular direction), and I understand how to extend the covariant...- maze
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- Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative Field Intuition Tensor
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Use of covariant derivative in general relativity.
When we derive equation of motion by variation of the action, we use rules of ordinary differentiation and integration. So only ordinary derivatives can appear in the equation. Now in general relativity we are supposed to replace all those ordinary derivatives by covariant derivatives. Is that...- arroy_0205
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- Covariant Covariant derivative Derivative General General relativity Relativity
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