Equivalence Definition and 721 Threads

  1. C

    Jumping force, and weight lifting equivalence

    Hi I like to play basketball and am curious as to how much force is required to jump a certain height I have tried to calculate it but I get stuck at energy and am not sure how to find the force as it is difficult to measure without equipment and being very accurate and precise (unless there is...
  2. A

    Why define equivalence relations, posets etc.

    I am studying set theory and I came across various definitions like equivalence relations, partial order relations, antisymmetric and many more. I am aware mathematicians don't care about real life applications but still - why are we defining so many relations? What is the use of defining...
  3. Logic Cloud

    Satisfiability vs Elementary equivalence

    Hi, I have stumbled upon PF many times through Google, but this is my first time posting. Hopefully, someone will be able to help me out. My question is about the concept of elementary equivalence in logic. According to my book, two structures A and B are elementary equivalent if: for every...
  4. G

    Can Matrix Norms be Used to Bound the Eigenvalues of a Matrix?

    Homework Statement Show that ||A||_1 \le \sqrt{n} ||A||_2 , ||A||_2 \le \sqrt{n} ||A||_1 , where ||A||_1 = \max_{1\le j\le n}\sum_{i=1}^n |a_{ij}| \\ ||A||_2 = (p(A^TA))^\frac{1}{2} \\ p(B) = \max|\lambda_B| with A,B\in \mathbb{R}^{n,n}, i,j\in[1...n] , \lambda_Athe eigenvalues of matrix A...
  5. N

    Equivalence of Canonical and Microcanonical Ensembles in Thermodynamic Limit

    In a lot of practical situations it is simply assumed the canonical and microcanonical ensemble give the same predictions, and that's fine, but I'm interested in a more exact statement of when they are indeed equivalent (in the thermodynamic limit). First of all, a thermodynamic limit must...
  6. grav-universe

    Gravitational lensing derivation using equivalence principle

    I have been trying to work this out for the last couple of weeks, but I just keep getting the Newtonian deviation in angle for a path of a photon traveling from x=-∞ to x=∞. At first I tried putting the actual path into a computer simulation, transforming back and forth between the hovering...
  7. G

    Is my understanding of the equivalence principle correct?

    I have been reading my books section on the weak equivalence principle over and over again, I think I understand it now, this is my understanding. Since all particles are accelerated by gravity at the same rate, no matter what they're composition or mass are, only a frame free falling with...
  8. J

    Showing that Equivalence Relations are the Same.

    Let G be a group and let H be a subgroup of G. Define ~ as a~b iff ab-1εH. Define ~~ as a~~b iff a-1bεH. The book I am using wanted us to prove that each was an equivalence relation, which was easy. Then, it asked if these equivalence relations were the same, if so, prove it. My initial...
  9. B

    Is Logical Equivalence of Conditional Statements a valid title for this content?

    Homework Statement (b) Show that (p → q) ∨ (p→ r) is equivalent to p → (q ∨ r). Homework Equations the ~ means negate The Attempt at a Solution Im not sure if i did this correctly (p → q) ∨ (P → r) (~p∨q) ∨ (~p∨r) used the conditional law p→q equivalent to ~p∨q...
  10. H

    How Do You Solve 7x ≡ 3 (mod 15)?

    Homework Statement Show that: 7x≈3 mod(15) Homework Equations From the given above I think it should be: 7x-3=15n The Attempt at a Solution I tried factoring this in various ways to show that either said was a factor of the other, but I'm struggling here. But I don't know...
  11. F

    Equivalence principle so important?

    Hello Forum, According to general relativity, objects in a gravitational field behave similarly to objects within an accelerating enclosure. For example, an observer will see a ball fall the same way in a rocket as it does on Earth, provided that the acceleration of the rocket provides the...
  12. H

    Equivalence Relations on {0, 1, 2, 3}: Understanding Reflexivity and Properties

    Homework Statement Which of these relations on {0, 1, 2, 3} are equivalence relations? Determine the properties of an equivalence relation that the others lack a) { (0,0), (0,2), (2,0), (2,2), (2,3), (3,2), (3,3) } This one is not reflexive Homework Equations I understand that...
  13. I

    Quotient set of equivalence class in de Rham cohomology

    Hi all, So the equivalence class X/\sim is the set of all equivalences classes [x]. I was wondering if there was a way of writing it in terms of the usual quotient operation: G/N=\{gN\ |\ g\in G\}? From what I've read, it would be something like X/\sim = X/[e]. But, since I'm looking at the de...
  14. L

    Equivalence Classes for Set S: Understanding the Unique Class [x]

    Given the set S, where aSb if and only if a - b \in Z It is asking for the equivalence class and the answer given is S has only one equivalance class for each real number x such that 0 ≤ x < 1. the class [x] is given by {x + k : k \in Z} i dun get it, since S is a set of relation where a...
  15. H

    The Twin Paradox and the Equivalence Principle

    I'm having a little trouble understanding the equivalence principle explanation of the twin paradox. I understand that the resolution to the paradox according to the equivalence principle is that the non-traveling twin has a higher gravitational potential energy in the pseudo-gravitational...
  16. E

    Equivalence Principle Misunderstanding?

    I've seen a lot of statements regarding Einstein's equivalence principle. Many formulate it to say that no experiment can distinguish between a reference frame in a gravitational field and an accelerating reference frame. But - isn't is true that in a gravitational field, tidal effects are...
  17. N

    A question about the equivalence principle.

    I had a physics test at school recently. One of the questions was based on the equivalence principle, going something like this: Two clocks in a spaceship that is accelerating. One at the bottom and one at the top of the space ship. Now think that the spaceship is so far away from any object in...
  18. V

    Equivalence principle and light

    An accelerating elevator is locally equivalent to a gravitational field. When this is applied to light, it is seen that a horizontal beam of light in the accelerating frame curves and the effect is same in a gravitational field, but wouldn't this violate the constancy of the speed of light?
  19. A

    Galileo's experiment and equivalence principle

    Why do we say that Galileo's experiment at Pisa is an illustration of Equivalence Principle? All we know is that G* (mass of earth)*(gravitational mass of object)/(R^2) = (intertial mass of object)*a Therefore, a=G* (mass of earth)*(gravitational mass of object)/(R^2 * (inertial mass of...
  20. Y

    Proving the Equivalence of √(1) and √(-1)(-1)

    1 = √(1) = √(-1)(-1) = (√-1)(√-1) = i.i = i^{2} = -1 Is this a correct equation?? anythings wrong with this? i think theoretically it is correct but it seems like √(1) = √(-1)(-1) √(1) = √(1)(1) also! so how to explain this??
  21. J

    Is this relation equivalence relation ?

    Homework Statement Relation is x^y = y^x...x and y belong to integersHomework Equations The Attempt at a Solution Well i have already proven that they are reflexive and symmetric. I have doubt with transitive I did the follwoing way x^y = y^x...(1) and y^z = z^y...(2) from(1) x^z = y^(zx/y)...
  22. J

    Implications of the Mass-energy equivalence

    Hello All, Let m be a mass, equivalent to energy E such, that E=mc^{2}. Does it follow that c is the cosmic speed limit? ====================================== To say the above with more words: 1) m is a mass 2) in some process, it is established that through...
  23. J

    Question on Mass-energy equivalence

    Hello All, is the following in principle, correct: Scenario A:------------ 1A) A box with mass M contains mass m, their weight is g(m+M) 2A) the mass m is (somehow) converted to energy E=mc^{2} 3A) at this moment, the box still has weight g(m+M) Scenario B: ---------- 1B) A box...
  24. E

    Love's equivalence principle for a perfect electric conductor

    Hello, I'm having some issues with Love's equivalence principle. I'm studying Balanis' "Antenna theory" (1997), here's a (legal) fragment of the section in question: http://www.uniroma2.it/didattica/ap1/deposito/02_2-Balanis-Equivalence_Theorems.pdf I'm trying to understand the following...
  25. G

    Understanding Energy-Mass Equivalence: Element Formation Explained

    What defines what element results when energy is converted into matter? i.e. the protons/electrons/neutrons
  26. S

    Equivalence Classes Explaination

    I'm wondering if someone could briefly explain how I can determine the equivalence class of relation? I understand that first you must test the relation to see if is true for the properties, reflexive, symmetric, and transitive. But my main problem is once that is done how can I get the...
  27. K

    Equivalence of definitions for regular representations

    There seem to be two definitions for a regular representation of a group, with respect to a field k. In particular, one definition is that the regular representation is just left multiplication on the group algebra kG, while the other is defined on the set of all functions f: G \to k . I do not...
  28. G

    Equivalence of Born and eikonal identities

    I am required to show that (i)in the upper limit of very high energies, the Born and eikonal identities are identical. (ii)that the eikonal amplitude satisfies the optical theorem. Regarding (i) I think it will involve changing from an exponential to a trig(Euler's theorem) but I could be...
  29. L

    Equivalence classes and Induced metric

    (X,\rho) is a pseudometric space Define: x~y if and only if ρ(x,y)=0 (It is shown that x~y is an equivalence relation) Ques: If X^{*} is a set of equivalence classes under this relation, then \rho(x,y) depends only on the equivalence classes of x and y and \rho induces a metric on...
  30. R

    Understanding Equivalence Classes: Even and Odd Numbers in Relation to 0 and 1

    Why in equivalence class of N of even number and odd number, the even number are taken as related to 0 and odd number are related as 1 i.e [0] and [1]. Instead of [0], even number can also be related to [2] or [4]? Or [2] or [4] could also be taken, as it is just an convention. Thanks.
  31. T

    Equivalence of Subgroups in a Group

    Homework Statement Let H and K be subgroups of the group G. Let a,b \in G and define a relation on G by a ~ b if and only if a = hbk for some h \in H and k \in K. Prove that this is an equivalence relation.Homework Equations a = hbkThe Attempt at a Solution The goal is to prove the reflexive...
  32. @

    Equivalence Classes of R on Integers: Solution

    Homework Statement R is a relation on the integers, xRy if x^2=y^2. Determine the distinct equivalence classes. Homework Equations [x]={yεZ}|yRx} Where Z is the set of integers The Attempt at a Solution [n]={-n, n} where n is an integer is this correct?
  33. B

    MHB Lagrange thm: orbits as equivalence classes and cosets

    Hi all, first post, please bear with me! I am trying to understand Lagrange's Theorem by working through some exercises relating to the Orbit-Stabilizer Theorem (which I also do not fully understand.) I think essentially I'm needing to learn how to show cosets are equivalent to other things or...
  34. C

    Varying Intensity of Gravitational Field and Equivalence

    Hi all, I was just looking for some assistance in reconciling the equivalence principle and the varying intensity of the gravitational field. (I'm in high school so go easy on me, I'm just studying Einstein's Relativity for the general reader). For convenience let's keep with Einstein's example...
  35. N

    Proving Equivalence: Cos^2(x) + Sin^2(y) = 1

    Homework Statement The question is to show that Cos^2(x) + Sin^2(y) = 1 is an equivalence relation. The Attempt at a Solution I know that there are three conditions which the equation must satisfy. (reflexivity, symetry, transitivity) For reflexivity I tried: Cos^2(x) - Cos^2(x) = Sin^2(y)...
  36. F

    Physical equivalence of Lagrangian under addition of dF/dt

    Homework Statement This isn't strictly a homework question as I've already graduated and now work as a web developer. However, I'm attempting to recover my ability to do physics (it's been a few months now) by working my way through the problems in Analytical Mechanics (Hand and Finch) in my...
  37. A

    Equivalence of models with respect to Turing-recognizability and -decidability

    This seemed like the least inappropriate place for this. Feel free to move it if I am wrong. Generally speaking, two computational models are equivalent if they recognize the same class of languages. In the case of models that can run indefinitely, we also have the problem of decidability...
  38. 3

    Equivalence of Completeness Properties

    The completeness properties are 1)The least upper bound property, 2)The Nested Intervals Theorem, 3)The Monotone Convergence Theorem, 4)The Bolzano Weierstrass, 5) The convergence of every Cauchy sequence. I can show 1→2 and 1→3→4→5→1 All I need to prove is 2→3 I therefore need the proof...
  39. B

    Equivalence of Integral and Differential Forms of Gauss's Law?

    A sphere has charge density \rho=k\cdot r. Using the integral form of Gauss's Law, one easily finds that the electric field is E=\frac{k\cdot r^2}{4\epsilon} anywhere inside the sphere. However, \nabla\cdot E=\frac{k\cdot r}{2\epsilon}, which is half of what should be expected from the...
  40. Z

    Questions about Equivalence principle & Einstein Elevator?

    Einstein inoculated general relativity with the help of equivalence principle and space elevator as shown in the following link http://www.astronomynotes.com/relativity/s3.htm QUESTIONS 1- What is the direction of weight [force] of a person standing on the floor of aforementioned...
  41. F

    Do Intervals [2,3] and [2,5] in Real Numbers Share the Same Cardinality?

    Hi - I've got the following question but can't find any concrete information in my books on how to answer it and I'm slightly confused: {x ε R : 2≤x≤3 } and {x ε R : 2≤x≤5 } Do they have the same cardinality? My understanding of this is if you can find a mapping that satisifies a bijection...
  42. F

    Equivalence relation and equivalence class

    i have two relations given to me which are both defined on the integers Z by relation 1: x~y if 3x^2 -y^2 is divisibale by 2 and relation 2: x~y if 3x^2 -y^2 ≥0 I have used three properties to figure out that relation 1 is eqivalence relation as it stands for all three properties i.e...
  43. J

    Mass in MeV/c2 of a particle with a mass of 4.032u

    Homework Statement A particle has a mass of 4.032u. What is its mass in MeV/c2 Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution 4.032u = 4.032 * 1.66*10-27 = 6.69*10-27 kg Energy equivalent, E = mc2: = (6.69*10-27)*(3*108)2 = 6.02 *10-10J J→eV (divide by 1.6∗10-19) )=3.76∗109...
  44. J

    Hi all,Let λ>0 and define an equivalence relation on

    Hi all, Let λ>0 and define an equivalence relation on ℝn-{0} by (x~y) \Leftrightarrow (there is an s\inZ such that λsx=y) I would like to know what the quotient space ℝn-{0}/~ looks like. I know that it is a set of equivalence classes. To understand it better I wanted to see how it...
  45. S

    Equivalence Relation on ℝ: xRy if x≥y | Symmetry and Transitivity Explained

    Homework Statement Determine whether the given relation is an equivalence relation on the set. Describe the partition arising from each equivalence relation: xRy in ℝ if x≥y Homework Equations Reflexive: for all x in X, x~x Symmetric: for all x,y in X, if x~y, then y~x Transitive...
  46. B

    Trouble proving equivalence at limit

    Homework Statement I'm trying to prove that Electric field away from a line segment of charge, is equivalent to the field away from a point charge, provided I observe from far enough. Homework Equations Ignoring all the constants: potential_line = log( (sqrt(r^2 + a^2) + a) /...
  47. B

    A bit of trouble with Thevenin equivalence with dependent sources

    This really isn't one specific problem per se as it is more of a conceptual issue, so I apologize for breaking away from the given format. I've worked through three problems involving a circuit where a thevenin equivalence circuit is required between two points, and all sources are dependent...
  48. K

    Norm equivalence between Sobolev space and L_2

    Hello! I've found this paper, wherein page 33 states that the reverse Poincaré inequality gives \forall v \in H^1_0(\Omega) , \|v\|_{L^2(\Omega)} \leq C(\Omega) \|\nabla v\|_{L^2(\Omega)} This I can follow - it gives a norm equivalence between the norm of a vector and the gradient of its...
  49. D

    Mass energy equivalence in a bagttery and an animal

    A charged battery should have a mass a little greater than a depleted battery. Surely that is measurable. So does a live person have greater mass than his or her dead equivalent? Surely that is a 2nd law of thermodynamics that would be revealing. Or is the entropy of life so small that it is...
  50. Z

    Binomial identities,combinatorial, equivalence

    NOte this is not a homework nor related to any course nor any test problem etc. - entirely my own interest and study. Re\: text by Biedenharn and Louck "Angular momentum in Q.Physics" . I derive an expression for the norm squared wrt a certain expression in Boson calculus. You don't really...
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