2008 Congressional, Statehouse Races

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Use this thread to discuss local races for Congressional and Gubernatorial seats, and directly related issues.
 

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I was going to vote for Gordon Smith - US Senator [R] from Oregon - whom I've supported twice before, but when I learned of Rove's connections to advertising in Oregon, that was it. Smith denies any connection, but he chose not to explicity denounce the negative ads.

Funny thing is, Smith has effectively been running as a Democrat - he specifically links himself to Obama in his campaign ads. And I do believe that he is better than most. He also denounced Bush for his abuses at a critical time, and for this I do respect him, but at this point he would have to file as an Independent and formally denounce Rove to get my vote.
 
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We have a local demcrat running for state representative (assemblyman). He's running against Bush and McCain though - at least according to his commercials. You'd think he was running for congress. Local politicians are so parochial, there is isn't much diff between a republican or democrat. There are a few for whom I'd vote on an individual basis - without regard to party affiliation.

I could certainly vote for someone like Lincoln Chafee, who recently registered as an independent after being a lifelong republican.
 
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N. Carolina Senate race in chaos over Dole's 'godless' ad
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/100/story/54930.html [Broken]

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- Furious about a new political ad in North Carolina that suggests she's "godless," state Sen. Kay Hagan said she'd seek a cease-and-desist order against U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Dole's campaign if the television spot isn't pulled in the next 24 hours.

Hagan, a Democrat from Guilford County, and Dole, the Republican incumbent, have both been engaged in a highly negative ad war over the U.S. Senate seat.

Hagan held a press conference Wednesday morning with her family and her minister in Greensboro to denounce the ad at the Presbyterian church where she is an elder and has taught Sunday school.

"Elizabeth Dole is attacking my strong Christian faith," Hagan said in a conference call with reporters, saying that Dole should be "ashamed" of herself for running such an ad.
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Dole is desperate - and bearing false witness. :rolleyes:
 
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CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- Furious about a new political ad in North Carolina that suggests she's "godless," state Sen. Kay Hagan said she'd seek a cease-and-desist order against U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Dole's campaign if the television spot isn't pulled in the next 24 hours.
Good for her!!! It's about damned time that someone starts challenging this nonsense. The GOP is completely out of control.
 
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Here is Kay Hagan's response to that ad.

http://www.kayhagan.com/tv [Broken]

Impressive.
 
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The fact that Dole would intentionally misrepresent the religious views of another Christian to the extent that she even has her voice faked for a commericial, is beyond belief. Many Christians might expect someone to go straight to hell for that one.
 
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...Dole is being sued over recent campaign ads that accuses Hagan of associating with a godless organization.

Hagan, a former sunday school teacher, is suing Dole for defamation, saying Dole is questioning her belief in god...
http://www.wspa.com/spa/news/local/article/kay_hagen_sues_elizabeth_dole_over_campaign_ad/10464/ [Broken]
 
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The fact that Dole would intentionally misrepresent the religious views of another Christian to the extent that she even has her voice faked for a commericial, is beyond belief. Many Christians might expect someone to go straight to hell for that one.
Let's don't get carried away in disbelief. It's an election campaign. Machiavelli rules.

The Republicans are gripping desperately by their fingernails and claws attempting to hold on by any means. The erstwhile Liddy Dole took her state for granted and looks about to get steam rolled.

Apparently beneath the pancake makeup lies the heart still of someone desperate to hold power by any means. Look at McCain and Palin's frenetic rhetoric these last few days.
 
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...Machiavelli rules.
Not for a Christian.

These over-the-line tactics and ads have to stop. This is out of control. And there is no reason why any of us have to accept this nonsense.

If Dole wins, there could be a stong case here. If Dole loses, then it would be difficult to demonstrate that any damage was done.
 
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Barney Frank ad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF0U-si6ZSg
 
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Latest polls in Alaska show Stevens behind between 10% and 20%.

At least he got his home fixed up for when he gets out of jail.
 
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Stevens still holds slim lead.
Stevens leads Begich by thin margin

Tens of thousands of ballots yet to be counted

By SEAN COCKERHAM scockerham@adn.com

Published: November 5th, 2008 12:45 AM
Last Modified: November 5th, 2008 08:00 AM

Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens maintained his lead over challenger Mark Begich this morning with 99 percent of the precincts counted, just a week after being found guilty of seven felonies and pre-election polls showing him in deep trouble.

With all but three of Alaska's 438 precincts reporting, the Republican Stevens held a 1.5 percent vote advantage over Democrat Begich -- 48 percent to 46.5 percent. About 4,000 votes separate the candidates. The thin margin means the Senate race might not be decided for two weeks.

Still to be counted are roughly 40,000 absentee ballots, with more expected to arrive in the mail, as well as 9,000 uncounted early votes and thousands of questioned ballots. The state Elections Division has up to 15 days after the election to tally all the remaining ballots before finalizing the count.

If the lead holds, Stevens will shock the nation and be the first person ever re-elected to the U.S. Senate after being found guilty on criminal charges. Polls had shown the Republican down by at least 8 percentage points on the day before the election.

But Stevens was defying the pollsters with Tuesday's returns.
http://www.adn.com/elections/story/579005.html [Broken]
 
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Looks like Stevens will win, just as Bachman did.

Franken and Coleman may still be fighting when the snow begins to melt in Minnesota.
 
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MinneapolisStarTrib said:
Coleman claims victory, automatic recount likely next step
Sen. Norm Coleman said today that he has won reelection for a second term from Minnesota, and urged Democratic challenger Al Franken to abandon any pursuit of a recount.

By KEVIN DUCHSCHERE and PAUL WALSHAND CURT BROWN, Star Tribune staff writers

Last update: November 5, 2008 - 12:18 PM
Sen. Norm Coleman late this morning declared victory for a second term from Minnesota, even as the wheels are churning toward an automatic recount of the nearly 3 million votes cast in his battle with Democrat Al Franken.

The Republican, whose margin in the unofficial state tally stands at 725 votes, said from his headquarters in St. Paul that he is "humbled and grateful for the victory that the voters gave us last night."

He then said Franken should abandon any pursuit of a recount, saying that "the prospect of overturning 725 votes is extremely, extremely, extremely remote." Franken could request that there not be a recount, but there is no hint that he would make such a move.

As for the recount itself, Secretary of State Mark Ritchie said he expects "several weeks" to pass before it is complete.
http://www.startribune.com/politics/state/33900844.html
 
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Looks like Stevens will win, just as Bachman did.
Amazing that the polarizing, apparently ignorant Bachmann managed to hold on after her rather idiotic McCarthyesque remarks.

Too bad the Democrats didn't have a stronger candidate for the district. It's kind of scary to think that such people get to have input as Congressional Representatives.

As far as Stevens goes, if his appeals fail, he's gone anyway. Though likely that will be an opportunity for Palin to inject herself on the national scene.
 
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AtlantaJournalConst said:
Georgia Senate race back ‘in full campaign mode’
Chambliss has 49.9 percent, but votes still remain before runoff is certain

By JIM THARPE, JIM GALLOWAY
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Republican incumbent Saxby Chambliss on Wednesday refused to concede that he’d been thrown into a U.S. Senate runoff — but acknowledged he was now “in full campaign mode” while final votes trickle in.

“I think the next four weeks are going to be highly interesting and highly competitive,” Chambliss said from his Cobb County office.
Democrat Jim Martin, who now has 46.7 percent, was holding his own press conference miles away in downtown Atlanta. Libertarian Allen Buckley won a crucial 3.4 percent of Tuesday’s vote.

“We’re in a runoff,” Martin said. “The runoff race begins right now.”

Martin said his campaign has already reached out to the campaign of President-elect Barack Obama.

Chambliss and Martin both said they didn’t know how many votes are outstanding.

Said Chambliss’ chief strategist, Tom Perdue: “We’re taking what we got overnight and going with it.”

Currently, Chambliss has 49.9 percent of the vote, according to Secretary of State Karen Handel. He needs 50 percent plus one to escape a runoff.

Chambliss expressed disappointment in Republican voting strength on Tuesday. “There was great turnout in early voting. Frankly, I think it was fairly evident that there was not the expected turnout yesterday that a lot of folks thought would be there,” he said.

“Voter fatigue” with the presidential race, and the bitterness of the final weeks of the Senate campaign could have been among the reasons, he said.

“Certainly, everybody in Georgia was ready to get this race over with. It’s been the longest presidential campaign in my memory. And I do think the tone of the campaign probably may have even turned a lot of people off,” he said.

Who might come to Georgia to help campaign for him remains undecided. But national Republican organizations have already promised hefty financial support.

On Tuesday, Democrats increased their majority in the U.S. Senate to 56, with Chambliss’ race and three others still in question.
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/stories/2008/11/04/georgia_us_senate_election.html [Broken]
 
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TheOregonian said:
US Senate: Gordon Smith takes lead in counting overnight
Posted by Harry Esteve and Noelle Crombie, The Oregonian November 05, 2008 08:43AM

Republican U.S. Sen. Gordon Smith gained a lead overnight in the race against Democratic challenger Jeff Merkley, although results from Multnomah County narrowed his lead this morning.

Preliminary results show Smith, a two-term incumbent, up by about 8,000 votes, with both candidates receving 47 percent of the vote. Constitution Party candidate David Brownlow was getting 6 percent. Multnomah County results were updated this morning but are not complete.

...Despite the closeness of the count, expert number crunchers said they expect Merkley to win, perhaps handily. Portland pollster Tim Hibbitts, appearing as an analyst on Fox News(12), outright called the race for Merkley, based primarily on how many votes remain uncounted in Democrat-rich Multnomah County.
http://blog.oregonlive.com/elections/2008/11/ussenate.html
 
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The erstwhile Liddy Dole took her state for granted and looks about to get steam rolled.
Similar situation with Marily Musgrave, a Representative in Colorado.

Ideologically, she's a perfect match for her district, being pro-life, pro-guns, etc (she's close to being the most conservative member in Congress). In practice, she has completely ignored her district in favor of pursuing national pro-life, anti-gay agendas. In fact, she's managed to hurt her own district a time or two in her pursuit of her national agenda. That's turned off a lot of voters - even the ones that agree with her ideologically.

She survived two re-elections that were extremely close considering she's representing a strong Republican district. A bad reputation and demographics finally caught up with her.

The big surprise is she got absolutely clobbered! Ironically, she got the message sent by two close re-elections and actually started doing things for her own district during the last two years. It didn't help, since she'd already cemented her reputation. The down-ticket effect of a popular Democratic Presidential candidate probably just added to her margin of defeat.

In spite of "cutting pork" being a popular Presidential campaign slogan, the job of a Congressman is to bring as many federal dollars into his/her district as possible. Those that forget it get punished.

Unbelievable! Colorado has gone from being a rock-solid Republican state with a Republican Governor, two Rep Senators, and 5 Rep Representatives (out of 7 total) to a Democratic Governor, two Dem Senators, and 5 Dem Representatives in just 4 short years.

Way to go, George Bush, Tom DeLay, Jack Abramoff, et al!
 
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Previously Smith was ahead, but NBC is now declaring Merkeley as the winner, as I think he is leading by nearly 40,000 votes now.

Democrat Merkley Wins Oregon Senate Race, AP Reports (Update2)

By Christopher Stern

Nov. 6 (Bloomberg) -- Oregon Democrat Jeff Merkley defeated incumbent Gordon Smith in a U.S. Senate race, the sixth Republican-held seat won by Democrats in the Nov. 4 election.

Merkely has 775,211 votes to 735,936 for Smith with 82 percent of precincts counted, according to the Associated Press.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=a8u5QMpBXrEY&refer=us [Broken]
 
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AlaskaDailyNews said:
Like McCain, Stevens and Young performed best in small cities and rural areas, such as the region that includes Palin's hometown of Wasilla, where she served two terms as mayor. The two also were heavily supported by a great majority of voters identifying themselves as white evangelical or born-again Christians.
http://www.adn.com/elections/story/580014.html [Broken]

So a guy that steals is OK. But when it comes to casting science aside in favor of Biblical literalism or how others conduct their private lives they want to interject and impose their beliefs on others?

But when it comes to the 7th Commandment like stealing clothes or getting a free deck put on their house, or the 8th Commandment lying they are OK with that?
 
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Alaska Daily News said:
Begich takes lead in latest vote count

Anchorage mayor swings from 3,000-vote deficit to 814-vote advantage.

By SEAN COCKERHAM and KYLE HOPKINS

Last Modified: November 13th, 2008 01:56 AM

Mark Begich made a dramatic comeback Wednesday to overtake 40-year incumbent Ted Stevens for the lead in Alaska's U.S. Senate race.

Begich, who was losing after election night, now leads Stevens by 814 votes -- 132,196 to 131,382 -- with the state still to count roughly 40,000 more ballots over the next week.

The state Division of Elections tallied about 60,000 absentee, early and questioned ballots from around the state on Wednesday. The ballots broke heavily in the Democrat's favor, erasing the 3,000-vote lead the Republican Stevens held after election night Nov. 4.
http://www.adn.com/elections/senate/story/587414.html [Broken]
 
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Begich lead over Stevens grows

MARGIN IS 1,022 VOTES: With 24,000 ballots left, no one's getting excited.


By SEAN COCKERHAM
scockerham@adn.com

Published: November 15th, 2008 03:21 AM
Last Modified: November 15th, 2008 01:13 PM

Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens is in grave danger of losing re-election after Mark Begich widened his lead to 1,022 votes Friday.

More than 90 percent of the votes are now counted, and Friday's count of absentee and questioned ballots could have been Stevens' best chance to make a comeback. That's because it included all the ballots left from the Matanuska-Susitna Borough, where Stevens has enjoyed his most unwavering support.

There are about 24,000 ballots left to be counted, coming from Anchorage, Southeast Alaska and the Kenai Peninsula. The state will tally them all Tuesday.

Dallas Massie, state Republican Party district chair from Wasilla, in the heart of the Mat-Su, said he thought Friday would be a day Stevens closed the gap. The senator, however, saw Begich's lead grow by more than 200 over the margin the challenger established on Wednesday, when post-Election Day counting of absentee, early and questioned ballots began.

"It's concerning, from my perspective," Massie said.
http://www.adn.com/elections/senate/story/589919.html [Broken]
 
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Begich Wins declares AP.
AlaskaDailyNews said:
Begich headed to Senate victory

By SEAN COCKERHAM
Published: November 18th, 2008 04:53 PM

Democrat Mark Begich is headed to victory over Republican Ted Stevens in Alaska's U.S. Senate race. The Anchorage mayor has widened his lead to 3,724 votes in today's counting of absentee and questioned ballots. The only votes left to count are approximately 2,500 special absentees from people living outside the U.S. or in remote parts of Alaska with no polling place. The state will count those final ballots on Nov. 25. Begich more than tripled his lead today after the state counted about 23,000 absentee and questioned ballots from Anchorage, Southeast Alaska, the Kenai Peninsula and Kodiak. The state finished counting from other parts of the Alaska last week. The campaigns have talked about a possible recount in early December. But since the state moved to mostly machine counting, recent Alaska recounts have resulted in little change in the final tally. Begich would be the first Democrat to represent Alaska in the U.S. Senate in nearly 30 years.
http://www.adn.com/senateelection/story/593747.html [Broken]
 
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AlaskaDailyNews said:
Begich topples Stevens in Senate race

By SEAN COCKERHAM
scockerham@adn.com

Published: November 19th, 2008 12:51 AM
Last Modified: November 19th, 2008 02:48 AM

Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens lost his job to Mark Begich on Tuesday, putting an end to the era of "Uncle Ted" as the dominant force in Alaska politics.

...Republican Party of Alaska Chairman Randy Ruedrich blamed Stevens' loss on the timing of the trial. It ended just a week before the election, giving Stevens little time to campaign.

"The Stevens campaign had very little time to get out the message of what happened in the trial," he said.
http://www.adn.com/senateelection/story/593747.html [Broken]

And getting out the message would have gotten him more votes? You'd think they would be grateful that the people in North Pole might not have gotten more of the news.
 
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