A Penny Falling of a Staionary/Fixed Position Sphere

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a penny released from the top of a smooth sphere with a radius of 1.3 meters. The objective is to determine the distance the penny falls away from the point of contact with the sphere and the platform after it slides down and leaves the surface of the sphere.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss analyzing forces acting on the penny and applying Newton's second law, considering the curvature of the sphere. There are attempts to relate gravitational potential energy to kinetic energy using the equation mgh = 1/2*m*(V^2). Some participants express uncertainty about determining the height (h) and the angle at which the penny leaves the sphere.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring various approaches to understand the forces and energy transformations involved in the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the analysis of forces and the importance of considering components perpendicular to the surface of the sphere. Multiple interpretations of the problem setup and the necessary calculations are being discussed.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on the penny sliding off the sphere and the need to analyze the forces at play, particularly the normal force and its relationship to the weight of the penny. Participants are also considering the initial height of the penny and how to define the height at which it falls off the sphere.

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Homework Statement



A penny is released from the top of a very smooth sphere of radius 1.3 meters. The sphere is fixed to a platform and doesn't move. The penny slides down from rest and leaves the sphere at a certain point. How far will the penny fall away from the point of contact of the sphere and the platform?

The penny just kind of slides off on it's own, and what needs to be found is where exactly it leaves the surface of the sphere.

Homework Equations



mgh = 1/2*m*(V^2)
h can be found using the angle.

The Attempt at a Solution



From the drawing I drew, I had the penny start from the top of the sphere and picked a spot where it falls off. I drew a line through the center of the sphere and the point where the penny falls off, but I'm at a bit of loss of where exactly to begin.
 
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Analyze the forces acting on the penny and apply Newton's 2nd law. (Don't forget that the sphere is a curved surface.)
 
I know the forces working on the penny in the y-axis are the normal F = Weight. What I've been thinking about doing is using

mgh = (1/2)m(V^2)

My problem is the h. I'm thinking about saying that the center of the sphere is 0, and that the initial height of the penny is the radius. After that, I feel like I should use

h' = h - y

with h' being the height the penny falls off. I just don't know how to get the angle I need.
 
. Arctic. said:
I know the forces working on the penny in the y-axis are the normal F = Weight.
At any point, the normal force is perpendicular to the surface. Hint: Analyze force components perpendicular to the surface. What's the acceleration in that direction?
 

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