Angular frequency of oscillation

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The discussion centers on deriving the angular frequency of oscillation for a mass suspended by a spring, leading to the relation ω = √(k/m). Participants debate the meaning of the inequality ω ≥ √(k/m), with one asserting that under simple harmonic motion (SHM), the frequency should equal this value, not be greater. The presence of gravity is acknowledged as affecting the equilibrium position but not the frequency of oscillation. It is clarified that the inequality might apply in non-linear scenarios, but the problem specifies linear motion. Ultimately, the consensus is that only the equality holds true for the given conditions.
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A mass m is suspended vertically by a spring of force constant k. Derive the relation \omega \geq \sqrt{\frac{k}{m}} where \omega is the (angular) frequency of oscillation. The only way I know to do this is to solve the differential equation \ddot{y} + \frac{k}{m}y = 0 using y = A\cos(\omega t + \phi) which gives \omega = \sqrt{\frac{k}{m}}. Where does the \geq sign come from?

Thanks.

James
 
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If there are no other forces acting apart from gravity and the spring, then it should be equals, not greater than or equal to.
 
That's what I thought, but apparently not so. If anyone would like to have a look at the original question, follow the link and go to question 8 (a)

http://www.physics.usyd.edu.au/ugrad/jphys/jphys_webct/jp_exams/1901_exam_2002.pdf
 
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Exam tomorrow. If anyone has any clues I'd love to know. . .

Thanks.

James
 
jdstokes said:
That's what I thought, but apparently not so. If anyone would like to have a look at the original question, follow the link and go to question 8 (a)

http://www.physics.usyd.edu.au/ugrad/jphys/jphys_webct/jp_exams/1901_exam_2002.pdf

The \ge might apply if the spring were not linear, but the problem states that the motion is simple harmonic, which, by definition, means that the spring is linear for all of the motion. I assume the statement about ignoring gravity is there so that you will not be thrown off worrying about it, but gravity does not affect the frequency of the oscillator. It only affects the equilibrium position.

You can imagine a scenario in which the mass is pulled down too far and the spring is compressed until the coils touch so that the mass bounces down suddenly instead of being pushed down by the spring force. That would increase the frequency, but that is not SHM. The way the problem is worded, only the equal sign is valid.
 
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