Angular Momentum: Homework Question on 4-Mass Rotating Cross

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The discussion revolves around a homework problem involving four masses attached to a rotating cross, focusing on the angular velocity of the remaining three masses after one is detached. The user initially calculated the total angular momentum using the formula that incorporates both the angular momentum of the masses relative to their center of mass and the center of mass's angular momentum relative to the initial point. There was confusion regarding whether the angular momentum of the three masses relative to their own center of mass is zero, which was clarified later in the conversation. Ultimately, the user confirmed that they solved the problem successfully. The discussion highlights the application of angular momentum principles in a rotating system.
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Homework Statement


4 masses are attached to a rotating cross. At some point, mass 4 is detached from the cross. What will be the angular velocity w' in which the 3 remaining masses will rotate about their center of mass (with the cross, which has no mass)?



Homework Equations


L(0)=L(of masses relative to center of mass)+L(center of mass itself relative to 0)



The Attempt at a Solution


At first I calculated the angular momentum L1 = Iw (w is given). Next, I used the above formula, with a little addition. I calculated the angular momentum of the 3 masses relative to THEIR center of mass, calculated the angular momentum of their center of mass relative to 0 (the point where the first angular momentum was calculated, before the separation - 0), and to that I added the angular momentum of the fourth mass (which was detached) relative to 0. I then summed all three components. Meaning I got:
L2(relative to lab)=L(3 masses relative to their center of mass)+L(center of mass of 3 masses, relative to 0)+L(fourth mass, relative to 0). Then I wrote L1=L2.
I just want to know if this attempt is valid..
 

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It seems correct, but isn't the angular momentum of the masses relative to their own center of mass 0?
 
ideasrule said:
It seems correct, but isn't the angular momentum of the masses relative to their own center of mass 0?

Maybe I wasn't being clear, I was talking about the angular momentum of the masses relative to the center of mass of the 3 masses+cross. Anyway I solved the question, so thanks.
 
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