Application of Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle

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The discussion centers around the application of the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle to a scenario involving electrons passing through a slit. Participants analyze the implications of the principle, particularly focusing on the relationship between the width of the slit and the momentum of the electrons. They debate the correct interpretation of the inequalities related to momentum and position, ultimately concluding that the majority of electrons will satisfy the condition |py|d < h, which aligns with the uncertainty principle. Confusion arises regarding the phrasing of options in a given exam question, leading to differing opinions on the correct answer. The conversation highlights the complexities of quantum mechanics and the subtleties in interpreting the uncertainty principle.
  • #51
BvU said:
I'm pretty convinced the answer ##\ |p_y|\;d \ < \ h\ ## is actually correct
:oldsurprised:
Haha,
You were saying the other thing previously.
 
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  • #52
Are we back to posts 32, 35, 36 and have to go the loop again ?
 
  • #53
BvU said:
Are we back to posts 32, 35, 36 and have to go the loop again ?
Yeah, I think
There is confusion between two options
|py|d < h
|py |d ≅ h
 
  • #54
BvU said:
Are we back to posts 32, 35, 36 and have to go the loop again ?
Sorry for the post 53, it was non sensible.
Can you tell, if we have got from fowler Δpyd ≈h
Then how | py| d < h ?
I have seen posts 32,35,36 carefully now.
You are saying this is not good exercise but anyways I am interested.
 
  • #55
BvU said:
(difference between ##\Delta## and | | isn't that big)
This statement was also a bit confusing from you for me
As I replaced Δpyd ≈h
To |py|d ≈h
Because you are saying difference between these two signs are not big.
 
  • #56
Raghav Gupta said:
Sorry for the post 53, it was non sensible.
Can you tell, if we have got from fowler Δpyd ≈h
Then how | py| d < h ?
I have seen posts 32,35,36 carefully now.
You are saying this is not good exercise but anyways I am interested.
The central maximum in the diffraction pattern from a single slit has a width Δpy ≈ h / d (see Fowler). Most electrons end up in the central maximum, so for most electrons | py| d < h

I am having a bit of a deja vu feeling now.
 
  • #57
Okay, got it but not completely.
I have not read diffraction so much. I guess I have to know some very basic concepts first to understand whole of the fowler.
Will search myself for the moment.
Thanks by the way.
 
  • #58
You're welcome. Don't forget #32: don't spend too much energy on this. It'll come by a few more times later on in the curriculum in different incarnations.
 
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