Applying Newtons laws n an inclined surface with two masses

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The discussion revolves around applying Newton's laws to a problem involving two blocks connected by a cord over a frictionless pulley on inclined planes. The original poster seeks to determine the direction of motion, the acceleration of the blocks, and the tension in the cord.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • The original poster attempts to analyze the forces acting on each block to determine the direction of motion and calculate acceleration. Some participants suggest comparing the forces acting on the blocks to establish the direction of motion. Others raise questions about the use of the Pythagorean theorem for calculating total acceleration and the relevance of the y-component of acceleration.

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Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the calculations for acceleration and the direction of motion. Some guidance has been offered regarding the comparison of forces, but no consensus has been reached on the method for calculating total acceleration.

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The problem is set in a frictionless environment, which is a key assumption in the discussion. The original poster expresses difficulty with the topic, indicating a potential gap in understanding the underlying concepts.

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applying Newtons laws on an inclined surface with two masses

Homework Statement


Two blocks connected by a cord passing over a small, frictionless pulley rest on frictionless planes (diagram attached)
a) which way will the system move when the blocks are released from rest?
b) what is the acceleration of the blocks?
what is the tension in the cord


Homework Equations


Newtons laws


The Attempt at a Solution


i have not gotten very far in this question as i keep going around in circles, actually i am finding this whole topic difficult but this is my attempt

a) find the force each block the largest force determines which way it will slide

w1 =mg
=100 x 9.8
=980
w2 =50 x 9.8
= 490
in component form
x1 = wsin30 y1 = wcos30
y2 = wsin53 y2 = wcos53

f=ma
but this is where i get stuck
im not sure if i need to take into the block attached at the other end or take each side of the triangle in isolation

i hope you understand cause I am not sure if i am making any sense
thanks in advanced
erin
 

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Which is greater?
100 g sin 30 or
50 g sin 53.
Direction of motion depends on that. You don't have to account frictional forces in this case, since its given that the planes are frictionless.
 
thanks for that so the system moves to the right
to do part b)
is the x component of acceleration equal to (980sin30+490sin53)/150
which equals 5.88
then you do a similar thing for the y component using the cos values
then to work out the total acceleration you use Pythagorean therm
resulting in 9.625
is this the correct method of working
 
e_burke said:
thanks for that so the system moves to the right
to do part b)
is the x component of acceleration equal to (980sin30+490sin53)/150
which equals 5.88
then you do a similar thing for the y component using the cos values
then to work out the total acceleration you use Pythagorean therm
resulting in 9.625
is this the correct method of working

Why use the Pythagorean theorem to find out the total acceleration? :confused:
There is no frictional force acting on either of the two blocks. Which component of weight causes the body to accelerate?
 

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