Are the Fresnel coefficients equal for E and B fields?

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The discussion centers on the derivation of Fresnel coefficients for TE polarization and the potential discrepancy when using magnetic field components instead of electric field components. The equations derived from Maxwell's equations yield different transmission coefficients when expressed in terms of the magnetic field, raising questions about the consistency of the coefficients for E and B fields. Participants suggest calculating transmission using the Poynting vector to clarify the relationship between the fields and their coefficients. There is also a note on the common convention of using lowercase letters for amplitude coefficients and uppercase for intensity. The conversation highlights the complexity of electromagnetic wave interactions at media interfaces and the importance of clarity in terminology.
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From the Maxwell Equations we know that there are four boundary conditions for an electromagnetic wave crossing an interface between two dielectric media. For the TE polarisation state, these conditions give us that

E_{i} + E_{r} = E_{t}

B_{i}\,\cos\theta_{i} - B_{r}\,\cos\theta_{r} = B_{t}\,\cos\theta_{t}

where E and B are the components parallel to the interface of the electric and the magnetic fields, respectively. The indices i, r and t are associated with the incoming, the reflected and the transmitted waves, being then \theta_{i} the angle of incidence, \theta_{r}=\theta_{i} the angle of reflection and \theta_{t} the angle of transmission.

Now, knowing that B=n\,E/c and that E_{r}/E_{i} = R and E_{t}/E_{i} = T we have the set of equations

1 + R = T

1 - R = \frac{\displaystyle n_{2}\,\cos\theta_{t}}{\displaystyle n_{1}\,\cos\theta_{i}}\,T

Solving these equations, we will arrive at the known Fresnel coefficients for the TE polarisation:

T = \frac{\displaystyle 2\,n_{1} \cos\theta_{i}}{\displaystyle n_{1}\,\cos\theta_{i}+n_{2}\,\cos\theta_{t}}

R = \frac{\displaystyle n_{1}\,\cos\theta_{i}-n_{2}\,\cos\theta_{t}}{\displaystyle n_{1}\,\cos\theta_{i}+n_{2}\,\cos\theta_{t}}

The problem is that, if I write the equations in terms of the magnetic field, that is, if I use that E=c\,B/n, the transmission coefficient becomes different:

T = \frac{\displaystyle 2\,n_{2} \cos\theta_{i}}{\displaystyle n_{1}\,\cos\theta_{i}+n_{2}\,\cos\theta_{t}}Is this correct? I could not find a mistake in my derivations so I am inclined to believe it is indeed correct, but if it is so, why do we always talk about the Fresnel coefficients of the Electric field?

Thank you very much.
 
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Gabriel Maia said:
E_{t}/E_{i} = T

Are you sure about this?
I would calculate the transmission comparing the Poynting vector of the incident and the transmitted light. Assuming ##\mu=1##,
##E_tB_T/(E_iB_i)=T## or ##n_2E_t^2/n_1E_i^2## and a similar equation for R.
 
DrDu said:
Are you sure about this?
I would calculate the transmission comparing the Poynting vector of the incident and the transmitted light. Assuming ##\mu=1##,
##E_tB_T/(E_iB_i)=T## or ##n_2E_t^2/n_1E_i^2## and a similar equation for R.
Doing some math I found out that, in order for

B_{t} = n\,E_{t}/c

we must have

E_{t} = T_{E}\,E_{i}

B_{t} = T_{B}\,B_{i}

So I believe it makes sense for the Fresnel coefficients to be different for both fields.
 
Gabriel Maia said:
So I believe it makes sense for the Fresnel coefficients to be different for both fields.
Probably yes. It is a bit confusing that you uses "T" and "R" for the coefficients of the field amplitudes. Most texts I know use "t" and "r" for the amplitudes and use the capital letters for the intensities.
 
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