Atwood's machine height problem

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The Atwood's machine problem involves two masses, m1 = 3.3 kg and m2 = 4.1 kg, with m2 having an initial upward speed of 0.17 m/s. The acceleration is calculated using the formula a = (m2 - m1)g / (m1 + m2), resulting in an acceleration of 1.06054 m/s². The distance m2 rises before coming to rest is calculated using d = ΔV² / (2a), yielding a distance of 0.0136 m or 1.36 cm. However, discrepancies arise when comparing results with an example from the textbook, leading to questions about the accuracy of the online grading system.

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Figure 8-20 http://www.webassign.net/walker/08-20b_alt.gif

14. [Walker2 8.P.025.] For the Atwood's machine shown in Figure 8-20, suppose that m2 has an initial upward speed of v = 0.17 m/s.

How high does m2 rise above its initial position before momentarily coming to rest, given that m1 = 3.3 kg and m2 = 4.1 kg?


Here's what I did:

[tex]F_{1} = T - m_{1}g = m_{1}a[/tex]
[tex]F_{2} = m_{2}g - T = m_{2}a[/tex]

and since the tensions must equal each other

[tex](m_{2} - m_{1})g = (m_{1} + m_{2})a[/tex]
or
[tex]a = \frac{m_{2} - m_{1}}{m_{1} + m_{2}} g[/tex]

[tex]a = \frac{4.1 - 3.3}{3.3 + 4.1} 9.81[/tex]

[tex]a = 1.06054[/tex]

I'm pretty confident that the answer is correct so far because the book uses this exact method in their example. Only the masses and velocity are changed. But the book's example stops at acceleration. Our problem asks for a distance, so...

[tex]d = \frac{\Delta V^2}{2a}[/tex]

[tex]d = \frac{0.17^2}{2*1.06054}[/tex]

[tex]d = 0.0136 m[/tex]

[tex]d = 1.36 cm[/tex]

But Webassign, the online homework system says WRONG :mad:

But the same problem in the book, using [tex]m_{1}=3.7 , m_{2} = 4.1 , v = 0.2[/tex] gives an answer of 4cm, which is exactly what I get using the same method. How can this method be good using the book's numbers, but wrong using the numbers in the online problem? Could the online grading be wrong? :bugeye: Wouldn't be the first time :-p
 
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Its much easier if you use work energy to solve this problem. Also the tensions are not equal- only in the static case but the relative position, velocity, and acceleration are.
 

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