Bond Angle, Can Someone Tell Me if I'm Correct?

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The discussion centers on determining the bond angle OSeO in the molecule SeO2. Initially, the user suggests a bond angle of 180 degrees, but confusion arises regarding the hybridization and bond types present in the molecule. It is clarified that SeO2 has a linear structure with two double bonds, resulting in a bond angle of 180 degrees. However, the user struggles with the octet rule when attempting to draw the Lewis structure with two double bonds. Ultimately, it is concluded that the molecule's electronic structure leads to a trigonal planar form with bond angles of 120 degrees.
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I am to find the angle OSeO in the molecule SeO2. After drawing the Lewis Structure and such, I am saying 180o. Is this correct?
 
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apmcavoy said:
I am to find the angle OSeO in the molecule SeO2. After drawing the Lewis Structure and such, I am saying 180o. Is this correct?

well sp3 hybridized = 109.5 degrees, sp2 hybridized (double bonds) = 120 degrees, and sp hybridized (triple bonds)= 180 degrees.
 
wr1015 said:
well sp3 hybridized = 109.5 degrees, sp2 hybridized (double bonds) = 120 degrees, and sp hybridized (triple bonds)= 180 degrees.

I have one double bond and one single bond. That is my problem. If they aren't the same, how can I determine this?
 
apmcavoy said:
I have one double bond and one single bond. That is my problem. If they aren't the same, how can I determine this?

in the molecule selenium dioxide, there should be 2 double bonds which form a linear molecule (180 degrees). you can go to chemfinder.com search selenium dioxide and it will show you an image of the molecule.
 
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wr1015 said:
in the molecule selenium dioxide, there should be 2 double bonds which form a linear molecule (180 degrees). you can go to chemfinder.com search selenium dioxide and it will show you an image of the molecule.

I went there and they said the same thing you did. However, when you write it with two double bonds there is no way for it to obey the octet rule when you write the Lewis Structure. I can get it with a double and a single, but not two doubles. Why is this?

Edit: Alright, let's forget the octet rule (I guess that's not important). When I write it with two double bonds I'm going to say a 120o angle, right?

Thanks.
 
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apmcavoy said:
I went there and they said the same thing you did. However, when you write it with two double bonds there is no way for it to obey the octet rule when you write the Lewis Structure. I can get it with a double and a single, but not two doubles. Why is this?

Edit: Alright, let's forget the octet rule (I guess that's not important). When I write it with two double bonds I'm going to say a 120o angle, right?

Thanks.

well by following the rules of bond hybridization i would say yes 120o
 
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Thanks I appreciate it :smile:
 
count the number of double bonds, single bonds and lone pairs. In this case, there are a total of 3 of all of these combined. This, the electronic structure will be in a trigonal planar form, so they are 120 degrees apart. Your molecule will have 2 bonds, making it a bent molecule with 120 degree bond angles.
 
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