Calculate forces on a fixed beam

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The problem involves a fixed beam subjected to an evenly distributed load and a diagonal load, requiring the calculation of reaction forces and moments at the fixed support. The subject area pertains to statics and equilibrium of forces and moments in structural analysis.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of forces and moments, expressing concerns about potential operator mistakes in their calculations. There is a focus on the correct application of force summation and moment calculations, particularly regarding the resultant load of the distributed force.

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Some participants have offered guidance on the correct approach to summing forces and moments, emphasizing the importance of considering the resultant load and its application point. Multiple interpretations of the calculations are being explored, particularly concerning the treatment of the distributed load and its resultant.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the treatment of distributed loads and the calculation of moments, with participants questioning assumptions about the center of gravity and the application of forces over the beam's length.

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Homework Statement



A beam ABC is fixed in point A. There is an evenly distributed load q working on top of the beam. In addition there is a diagonal load F working at point C.

Calculate force Ax, Ay and the reaction couple MA.




The Attempt at a Solution



Please see attached file for figures and calculations.
I believe I'm on the right path, but I fear there might be operator mistakes(+ and -) somewhere.
(Ironically that's what I find to be the most difficult thing with statics. Get a + wrong and all your calculations are off...)
 

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dreamliner said:

Homework Statement



A beam ABC is fixed in point A. There is an evenly distributed load q working on top of the beam. In addition there is a diagonal load F working at point C.

Calculate force Ax, Ay and the reaction couple MA.




The Attempt at a Solution



Please see attached file for figures and calculations.
I believe I'm on the right path, but I fear there might be operator mistakes(+ and -) somewhere.
(Ironically that's what I find to be the most difficult thing with statics. Get a + wrong and all your calculations are off...)
Oh those pesty plus and minus signs are always cause for concern in Physics and Engineering, but that is not your problem here in your incorrect solution. You are mixing up forces and moment calculations. When you sum forces in the y direction, there are no moment arm distances to consider. Check your value for the resultant force of the distributed load. And when you sum moments, check your value for the moment about A of the force F applied at C.
 
PhanthomJay said:
When you sum forces in the y direction, there are no moment arm distances to consider.

So in this case it should be only q*4,1(the length of the beam force q is working on) even though force q isn't distributed across the entire beam? (I was under the assuption you had to consider cg of force q in such cases)

PhanthomJay said:
And when you sum moments, check your value for the moment about A of the force F applied at C.

Should have been a moment arm distance there, yes. So the correct value would be F*sin 54,4*6,3
 
dreamliner said:
So in this case it should be only q*4,1(the length of the beam force q is working on) even though force q isn't distributed across the entire beam?
Correct. The load distribution is in units of force per unit length, and thus the resultant load, which must be in force units, is ql, where l is the length of the beam over which q is applied.
(I was under the assuption you had to consider cg of force q in such cases)
Once you calculate the resultant load of the force distribution, ql, the resultant acts at the cg of the load, and the magnitude and location of that resultant is used to determine end reactions when summing moments about any point.
Should have been a moment arm distance there, yes. So the correct value would be F*sin 54,4*6,3
yes.
 

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