Calculate the flux of the indicated electric field vector through the circle

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric flux through a circular surface given an electric field vector and angle. The formula for flux involves the dot product of the electric field and the area vector, which is influenced by the angle between them. A participant initially assumed the total flux was zero due to a misunderstanding of closed surfaces, but clarified that the surface in question does have a boundary. The correct approach involves using the dot product of the electric field magnitude and the area, adjusted for the angle. Despite following the formula, the participant received feedback indicating their answer might be incorrect, prompting further inquiry into potential errors.
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Calculate the flux of the indicated electric field vector through the surface. (E = 130, = 66.0°.)
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I know the differential equation for flux d\phi= A \bullet d S
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My textbook told me that "if there is zero total charge within the closed surface S, there is no net flux of the electric field vector through S."
I guessed that the total flux was 0, but that was wrong...
Or maybe it's
\int (from O to .05m) <130,0> \bullet \pi r ^2(<cos60,sin60>)
But I'm not really even sure how to do an integral with a dot product(would you dot them first?), and I'm fairly certain that's wrong...

Any ideas?
 
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Hi cwatki14! Welcome to PF! :smile:

(type \cdot, not \bullet :wink:)
cwatki14 said:
My textbook told me that "if there is zero total charge within the closed surface S, there is no net flux of the electric field vector through S."
I guessed that the total flux was 0, but that was wrong...

A "closed surface" mans a surface with no boundary (like a sphere), but S does have a boundary … it's the circle round S :wink:

(I suspect you're confusing this with a topologically closed (as opposed to open) surface … a surface which includes its boundary)
 
So is the flux then
\int(130)(sin\pi/3)(\pi)(dr)^2
and then you take the integral to get
130*sin\pi/3*\pi\intdr^2
and I'm not sure when to go from here...
 
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So I was pretty sure I had it when I realized you can just take the dot product between the area and the electric field.

Therefore I was led to this answer.
A dot E= 130 * pi(.05)^2 * cos 66
Which is equal to the magnitude of the electric field multiplied by the magnitude of the area multiplied by the angle in between the two vectors (reference the pic above). However, my online homework program quickly told me I was wrong! Blergh! Any suggestions?
 
Hi cwatki14! :smile:

(have a pi: π and a dot: · and try using the X2 tag just above the Reply box :wink:)
cwatki14 said:
So I was pretty sure I had it when I realized you can just take the dot product between the area and the electric field.

That's right … you only need to integrate if the field isn't constant, or if the surface (or its boundary) isn't planar. :smile:
Therefore I was led to this answer.
A dot E= 130 * pi(.05)^2 * cos 66
Which is equal to the magnitude of the electric field multiplied by the magnitude of the area multiplied by the angle in between the two vectors (reference the pic above). However, my online homework program quickly told me I was wrong! Blergh! Any suggestions?

Looks ok to me :confused:

(Are you sure it isn't 150, not 130?)
 
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