Calculating Acceleration of Particles on a Sloping Roof

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The problem involves two particles connected by a string over a pulley, with one particle on a sloping roof and the other hanging freely. The objective is to calculate the acceleration of the particles when released from rest, considering the forces acting on each particle.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the acceleration using equations of motion and forces acting on both particles. Some participants suggest revising the equations based on the setup of the problem, while others question the assumptions made regarding the direction of forces.

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Participants are actively discussing the equations used and exploring different interpretations of the problem setup. Some guidance has been offered regarding adjustments to the equations, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach yet.

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The original poster expresses uncertainty about their calculations and mentions a discrepancy with the answer provided in their textbook. There is also a suggestion to reconsider the orientation of the roof, indicating potential assumptions about the system's configuration.

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Two particles, A (mass 0.2 kg) and B (mass 0.3 kg), are attached to an inexstensible string which passes over a smooth pulley. A initially rests on a sloping roof that makes a 30 degree angle with the horizontal and B hangs freely below the roof. Find the acceleration, a, of the particles when released from rest.
(I tried to draw a diagram but it came out looking a mess).
My workings (T is the tension in the string):
(1) 0.3g - T = 0.3a
(2) T - 0.2g sin 30 deg = 0.2a

(1) T = 0.3g - 0.3a
(2) 0.3g - 0.3a - 0.1g = 0.2a
(2) 0.5a = 0.2g
(2) a = 0.4g
taking g to be 9.8 m/s/s:
a = 3.92 m/s/s
My book says 7.84 m/s/s.
What did I do wrong?

Thanks for any help.
Jimi
 
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hendrix7 said:
My book says 7.84 m/s/s.
What did I do wrong?

Thanks for any help.
Jimi
Try sloping your roof in the other direction. Looks like that would just about give the quoted answer, but I did not calculate it
 
According to OlderDan's tip you should replace eq [2] by

T + 0.2gsin30^{\circ},

which should give you 4/5g.
 
Yep, you're both right, I see it. Thanks.
 

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