Calculating Centripetal Acceleration in a Vertical Loop

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The discussion centers on calculating centripetal acceleration in a vertical loop, specifically addressing the equations governing the forces acting on a mass during its motion. The correct radius for the loop is established as $$R = \frac{1.8}{5}$$, while the book's assertion of $$R = \frac{1}{5}$$ is contested. Key points include the necessity of considering the components of forces, particularly the gravitational force and normal force, and the transition to projectile motion once the mass leaves the loop. The centripetal acceleration is defined as the acceleration component perpendicular to the velocity vector, which changes once the mass is in free fall.

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Homework Statement
A small particle slides from height H=45 cm as shown and
then loops inside the vertical loop of radius R from where a
section of angle = 60° has been removed. If R = (1/N)
meter, such that after losing contact at A and flying through
the air, the particle will reach at the topmost point B. Find
N. Neglect friction everywhere.
Relevant Equations
$$mg(h) = mg(h') + \frac{1}{2}mv^2$$

$$mg = \frac{mv^2}{r}$$
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$$mg(0.45) = mg(R + R \cdot cos(\frac{π}{3})) + \frac{1}{2}mv^2$$

$$v^2 = g(0.9 - 3R)$$

The centripetal acceleration during the "flying through air" will be given by gravity

$$mg \cdot cos(\frac{\pi}{3}) = \frac{mv^2}{r}$$

$$R = \frac{1.8}{5}$$

But my book says $$ R = \frac{1}{5}$$
 
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Your equation

$$mg=\frac{mv^2}{r}$$​

is incorrect. The weight and the centripetal force do not point in the same direction. You have to consider components if this equation is meant to express Newton's 2nd law. Also, there is a normal force acting on the mass just before the particle reaches the gap.
 
kuruman said:
Your equation $$mg=\frac{mv^2}{r}$$is incorrect. The weight and the centripetal force do not point in the same direction. You have to consider components if this equation is meant to be Newton's 2nd law. Also, there is a normal force acting on the mass just before the particle reaches the gap.
I've used $$mg \cdot cos\frac{\pi}{3} $$ in the solution. As for the normal force, it's not present because I've considered the instant at which the block has just left the loop
 
Fitz Watson said:
I've used $$mg \cdot cos\frac{\pi}{3} $$ in the solution. As for the normal force, it's not present because I've considered the instant at which the block has just left the loop
At the instant at which the block has just left the loop the block is in free fall and undergoes projectile motion.

On edit: The answer in the book that you quoted is correct if the units are meters. Treat the problem as projectile motion as soon as the particle loses contact with the track.
 
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Fitz Watson said:
The centripetal acceleration during the "flying through air" will be given by gravity
Not sure what your thinking is behind that statement.
It will fly through the air in a parabola, not a circle.
Of course, centripetal acceleration doesn't only apply to circular motion. In general, it is just the acceleration component at right angles to the velocity. But once it loses contact with the loop that will cease to point to the centre of the loop.
 

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