Calculating mass by pressure needed to move object

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A cylinder contains 50mg of H2 gas with a piston surface area of 27cm², and the temperature increases from 298K to 328K, causing the piston to rise 2cm. The ideal gas equation is applied to find the relationship between pressure, volume, and temperature, but the initial calculations led to confusion regarding the correct volume and pressure values. The correct mass of the piston is determined to be 3.6kg, although the method to derive this from the pressure exerted by the gas remains unclear to the participants. The discussion emphasizes the importance of correctly applying the ideal gas law and understanding the relationship between pressure and force on the piston. Clarification on how to calculate the mass based on the exerted pressure is sought.
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Homework Statement


A cilinder is filled with 50mg of H2 gas. In the cilinder is a piston with a surface of 27cm The temperature of the gas equals 298K. The piston rises 2cm when the temperature rises 30 degrees. Calculate the mass of the piston
Also given data:
MH2=2.02g/mol

Right answer: 3.6kg
2. Homework Equations

Ideal gas equation : p.V = n.R.T

The Attempt at a Solution


I though the volume rose with 2x27cm^2 = 54cm^3
So I used the ideal gas formula and used Volume 1 as X and Volume2 as x+54 and equaled those formulas to each other but received the wrong answer.
 
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Hello and welcome to PF.

You said that you "equaled those formulas to each other". Could you show the steps involved in doing this?
 
TSny said:
Hello and welcome to PF.

You said that you "equaled those formulas to each other". Could you show the steps involved in doing this?
p=nRT/V1=nRT/V2
I calculated that n= 0,024

(0,024.8,31.298K)/x=(0,024.8,31.328K)/(x+0,54)

I tried to find x there and ended up with 0,56. Then I put the x back in the formula and tried to find the pressure with it. Which was 106(pa?). How to find the mass of the piston with that is still a mystery
 
Physics123537 said:
Then I put the x back in the formula and tried to find the pressure with it. Which was 106(pa?). How to find the mass of the piston with that is still a mystery
if that's the pressure, what force is it exerting on the piston?
 
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