Calculating the Binding Energy of 12C

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The discussion revolves around calculating the binding energy of carbon-12 (12C), focusing on the relevant mass defect and the components involved in the calculation.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore how to calculate the mass defect and question whether to include protons, electrons, and neutrons in the calculation. There is also discussion on the distinction between the binding energy of the nucleus versus that of the atom.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively questioning the role of electrons in the binding energy calculation and clarifying whether the focus is on the nucleus or the entire atom. Some guidance has been provided regarding the components to consider based on the context of the question.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the interpretation of the problem, specifically whether it pertains to the carbon nucleus or the carbon atom, which affects the calculation of binding energy.

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Homework Statement



What is the binding energy of 12C ? (the 12 is meant to be the nucleon number of C)

Homework Equations



E=mc^2

The Attempt at a Solution



I am not sure how to calculate the mass defect. Do i take into consideration of the protons, electrons and neutrons?
 
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Binding energy= (mass of the total no of protons and the nucleus - mass of the atom itself)/c^2.
 
Swap said:
Binding energy= (mass of the total no of protons and the nucleus - mass of the atom itself)/c^2.

Thanks but why is electrons not involved here?
 
thereddevils said:
Thanks but why is electrons not involved here?
It depends on whether the question is referring to the atom or nucleus.
The binding energy of a nucleus would just involve the nucleons, whereas the binding energy of the atom would involve the electrons as well.
 
Fightfish said:
It depends on whether the question is referring to the atom or nucleus.
The binding energy of a nucleus would just involve the nucleons, whereas the binding energy of the atom would involve the electrons as well.

thanks and in this case, how do i know if the question is referring to the carbon nucleus or the carbon atoms?
 

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