Calculating the change in entropy of an ideal gas under compression

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The discussion focuses on calculating the change in entropy of an ideal gas undergoing compression. The initial conditions include a pressure of 140 kPa, a temperature of 298 K, and a volume of 0.14 m³, with a final pressure of 1.4 MPa. The user is attempting to apply the equation ΔS = c_v*ln(Tf/Ti) + R*ln(Vf/Vi) but is unsure how to find the final temperature and the volume Vf. Suggestions include solving for the final temperature first or using the relationship between temperature, volume, and pressure derived from the polytropic process. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the relationships between these variables to calculate entropy accurately.
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Homework Statement


Initial
pressure: 140kPa
Temperature: 25C or 298K
Volume: 0.14m^3

Final
Pressure:1.4MPa or 1400kPa

It uses index compression, n=1.25. So PV^1.25 = constant.

c_p = 1.041kJ/kg.K and c_v = 0.743 kJ/kg.K

Homework Equations


¥ = c_p/c_v
ΔS=c_v*ln(Tf/Ti) + R*ln(Vf/Vi) [i think]

The Attempt at a Solution


I found ¥ to be 1.4012
PV^n = 12 therefore Vf = 0.0222

140*0.14^1.25=11.989
1400*Vf^1.25=11.989
Vf^1.25=11.989/1400
 
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So far your work looks OK. Where are you stuck?
 
PeterDonis said:
So far your work looks OK. Where are you stuck?
hi,

So where do i use the Vf? I don't I use "ΔS=c_v*ln(Tf/Ti) + R*ln(Vf/Vi) " as part two asks for the final temperature. So part one wants me to find the entropy, but i don't know how to do this.
 
Are there any other equations that involve the entropy? For example, for the special case (which it seems would apply to your problem) where the gas does not exchange heat with the environment?
 
I don't see any problem with solving for the final temperature first and then substituting for the delta S. Alternately, you can solve for the temperature ratio in terms of the volume ratio by combining the polytropic relationship with the ideal gas law:
##\Delta lnT-\Delta lnV=\Delta lnP##
##n\Delta ln V=-\Delta lnP##

Solve for ##\Delta lnV## and ##\Delta lnT## in terms of ##\Delta lnP##

Chet
 
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