How to Determine the Electric Field at a Specific Point?

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To determine the electric field at a specific point, the user is confused about which equations to apply, particularly in the context of an electric dipole. They initially attempted to use formulas for the electric field due to a dipole but found them unsuitable due to the distance from the dipole. The discussion suggests using Coulomb's law and superimposing the electric fields from the two charges of the dipole instead. Despite recalculating using this method, the user still arrives at an incorrect result. Clarification on the correct application of these principles is sought to resolve the issue.
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Homework Statement



What are the strength and direction of the electric field at the position indicated by the dot in the figure?

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Homework Equations



Edipole = ~ [1/(4πε0)] * [2p/r3 ]
on the axis of an electric dipole

Edipole = ~ [-1/(4πε0)] * [p/r3 ]
in the plane perpendicular to an electric dipole

The Attempt at a Solution



Which equation should I use??

Thanks
 
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Neither. Your equations only apply if the two charges in the dipole are much closer together than the distance r from the dipole.
 
Avodyne said:
Neither. Your equations only apply if the two charges in the dipole are much closer together than the distance r from the dipole.

what formula would i use?
 
my textbook uses these forumulas...so i tried the problem using them

so here is my process:

p = qs

s=0.1
q=1*10-9
p=1*10-10

1/(4πε0) = 9*109

r=0.05m

plugging everything into the second equation {[-1/(4πε0)] * [p/r3 ]}, i get -7200, but this is incorrect
 
aliaze1 said:
what formula would i use?

Why not just use coulomb's law, and superimpose the two electric fields?
 
nicksauce said:
Why not just use coulomb's law, and superimpose the two electric fields?

good idea..this was my original approach, which didn't work for some reason

E=[1/(4??0)]*[q/r2]

using the two charges:

q1=1*109
q2=-1*109

and their respective distances:

r1=0.05
r2=0.01250.5 (square root)

and doing all calculations, and then adding the two charges (3600 and -720) gives me 2880, which is incorrect...
 
lol so yea...umm...any help?
 
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