Calculating Thermal Expansion in a Steel Cable

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The discussion revolves around calculating the temperature increase (θ) that causes a steel cable to bend when stretched between two poles. The initial calculations led to an absurd result of 126 °C due to miscalculations, particularly in not dividing the change in length by the original length. Participants pointed out that the correct approach involves using the linear expansion coefficient for steel and correcting the calculations. After addressing these errors, one participant arrived at a more reasonable temperature increase of approximately 30.7 °C. The conversation highlights the importance of careful calculations in thermal expansion problems.
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Homework Statement



As shown in attachment a steel cable is stretched between two poles. In 20°C temperature the cable remains horizontal (the length of the cable 10m). At a higher temperature θ°C the cable bends like in attachment. The lamp hanging from the mid-point could be thought as weightless. The linear expansion coefficient for steel is 12 * 10^-6. What is the value of θ?


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l' = l [1 + αθ] ------- 1


The Attempt at a Solution



I first used pythagorian to find the expanded length so,

L^2 = 25 + 64 * 10^-4

that gives L = 5.0064
so the total expanded length 2L = 10.0128

And applying it to the (1) equation
I get a value for θ = 126 °C ! obviously absurd.

So anyone got a hint on what I'm doing wrong?
 

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Pls post the steps between calculating the expanded length and getting theta.
 
has1993 said:
L^2 = 25 + 64 * 10^-4

that gives L = 5.00064
so the total expanded length 2L = 10.00128

And applying it to the (1) equation
I get a value for θ = 126 °C ! obviously absurd.

So anyone got a hint on what I'm doing wrong?

You miss some zeroes. I think it is just typing error. I got the same result a you.
Edit: We both forgot to divide the change of length by the original length. ehild
 
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Strange - I get 30.7C.
Fractional expansion = 0.000128 = 1.28E-4. Dividing by 12E-6 gives a bit over 10.
 
haruspex said:
Strange - I get 30.7C.
Fractional expansion = 0.000128 = 1.28E-4. Dividing by 12E-6 gives a bit over 10.

You are right, I forgot to divide by Lo. :redface:

ehild
 
Thks guys. It really helped. I think I've made some miscalculations. But now i get it. :D
 
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