Calculating Volume of A Enclosed by Elliptic Hyperboloid & Planes

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The discussion revolves around calculating the volume of a region in R3 enclosed by an elliptic hyperboloid defined by the equation x² + y² - z² = a² and two planes at z = -h/2 and z = h/2. Participants are exploring the appropriate methods for setting up the integral to find this volume.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are considering using a triple integral in cylindrical coordinates, with discussions on the limits of integration and the form of the integrand based on the hyperboloid equation.
  • Some participants question whether a triple integral is necessary or if a different approach, such as integrating in the z direction with circular slabs, could be more suitable.
  • There is confusion regarding the correct interpretation of the surface equation and the necessity of evaluating the volume in two parts due to symmetry.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts at setting up the integral and expressing confusion about the correct approach. Some guidance has been offered regarding the symmetry of the figure and the possibility of simplifying the integration process, but no consensus has been reached on the method to use.

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Participants are grappling with the implications of using cylindrical coordinates versus other methods, and there are mentions of potential errors in interpreting the surface equation. The constraints of the problem, including the specific planes and the nature of the hyperboloid, are also under discussion.

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For positive a and h, let A designate the region of R3 enclosed by the elliptic hyperboloid, x2 +y2 -z2 =a2 and the two planes, z= -h/2 and z=h/2.

Determine the volume of A

So I figure this will be a triple integral in cylindrical coordinates. the first integrand being from -h/2 to h/2, the second from 0 to 2∏ and the third is a transformation to r.

The equation to integrate would be my elliptic hyperboloid equation, correct? So that would look something like r2cos2(θ) +r2sin2(θ)-z2 rdrdθdz...right?

I'm confused on how to go about this problem so I told you what I was able to figure out on my own. Could someone PLEASE explain how I do this?
 
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i got the triple integral with limits stated above and of r^3 -rz^2 drd(theta)dz..I made my last integrand be from 0 to a..is this correct? I then integrated it all out and ended up with [pi(a^4)h]/2. Is this right?? Could I have possibly solved this?
 
Your surface equation is actually that of a one-sheeted paraboloid. I've attached the graph.

In the plane z=0, r varies from r=a
In the plane z=h/2, r varies to r=\sqrt{a^2+\frac{h^2}{4}}

To get the entire volume, just multiply the triple integral by 2.
 

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But there is no plane z=0. It's-h/2 and h/2.
 
sydneyw said:
But there is no plane z=0. It's-h/2 and h/2.

You have to evaluate the total volume in two parts. First, from z=0 to z=h/2. Then, from z=-h/2 to z=0.

Note that the figure is symmetrical at z=0, which is at its smallest cross-sectional area, where r=a.

Hence, there is no need to calculate two triple integrals. Just find one and then multiply by 2.
 
okay so 1. do i need to evaluate in cylindrical coords even?
2. am I using my elliptic hyperboloid equation for the integration?
3. it would be a double integral of that elliptic hyperboloid equation or no?

I'm sorry. I'm very confused now.
 
sydneyw said:
For positive a and h, let A designate the region of R3 enclosed by the elliptic hyperboloid, x2 +y2 -z2 =a2 and the two planes, z= -h/2 and z=h/2.

Determine the volume of A

So I figure this will be a triple integral in cylindrical coordinates. the first integrand being from -h/2 to h/2, the second from 0 to 2∏ and the third is a transformation to r.

The equation to integrate would be my elliptic hyperboloid equation, correct? So that would look something like r2cos2(θ) +r2sin2(θ)-z2 rdrdθdz...right?

I'm confused on how to go about this problem so I told you what I was able to figure out on my own. Could someone PLEASE explain how I do this?

This is a solid of revolution. No law says you must use a triple integral. Why not just set it up with circular slabs and integrate in the z direction?
 

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