# Can we apply L'Hopital rule to 4/0 form?

1. Jul 16, 2006

### jack1234

1) Can we apply L'Hopital rule to the 4/0 form?
eg
$$\lim_{x\rightarrow 0} \frac{x+4}{x^2}$$
$$=\lim_{x\rightarrow 0} \frac{1}{2x}$$
$$=0$$

2) we know that 0/0 is indefinite form, but is 4/0 indefinite form?

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2. Jul 16, 2006

### quasar987

Did you mean to give

$$\lim_{x\rightarrow 0}\frac{x+4}{x^2}$$

as an exemple? (click the equation to see the code I used to write it)

Anyway, no when the numerator goes to something finite but the denominator goes to 0, we write that the limit is $\infty$.

There are seven indeterminate forms, and they are listed here:
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Indeterminate.html
(scroll down a little bit)

3. Jul 16, 2006

### jack1234

Yes, this is exactly what I mean. Thanks for helping me for the Latex, I am still looking for a manual for it.

For my question, am I right that the answer for both question is
1)No, the answer is $\infty$
2)No
according to my understanding on your comment?

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4. Jul 16, 2006

### quasar987

5. Jul 16, 2006

### jack1234

Hi, I have a question here

$$\lim_{x\rightarrow 2} (\frac{|x-3|-|3x-5|}{x^2-5x+6})$$

So, it is -10/0 form,
is the answer $\infty$ again? Although I think it is not, as I use a the computer to graph it, it is 4.

How do we determine the answer is $\infty$?

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6. Jul 16, 2006

### matt grime

Put x=2 into that expression and what do you get? not -10/0, that is for sure.

If you ever by naive substitution get a/0 where a is not zero then the limit is undefined (in the reals) or infinity for short hand. But you are not in that situation here.

However, around x=2, x-3 is negative and 3x-5 is positive, so near to 2 the expression is the same as (3-x -3x +5)/(x^2-5x+6), and you can simplify that expression by simple algebra.

Don't forget whenever youi hve absolute value signs in that you can (and should) split things up into regions where the expressions inside the abs value signs are positive or negative.

7. Jul 16, 2006

### jack1234

Thanks, I have really calculated it wrongly.