Capacitor behaviour (force, electric field, charge and plate distance)

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of capacitors, specifically analyzing the relationships between force, electric field, charge, and plate distance. Key equations such as Q = C*V, E-field = V/d, and F = E*q are referenced to evaluate multiple statements about capacitor behavior. The participants debate the validity of various statements, concluding that options B and E are true, while others are false due to the dependence of force on charge and distance. Ultimately, one participant successfully identifies the correct answer as E after considering the relationships outlined in the equations. The conversation highlights the complexities of capacitor dynamics and the importance of understanding underlying principles.
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Homework Statement



[PLAIN]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14443433/Screen%20shot%202011-02-25%20at%2011.02.23%20AM.PNG

Homework Equations



Q = C*V
E-field = V/d
F = E*q
C = epsilon-naught*A/d

The Attempt at a Solution



A.
false based on
F = E*q
= Vq/d
= C*V^2/d

B.
true based on the inverse relationship demonstrated above

C.
false because as d is varied, there is a change in force, and this force will affect the charge, q, as per F = Vq/d

D.
false because isn't the electric field constant everywhere, and doesn't depend on distance?

E.
true because
Q = C*V
= epsilon-naught*A*V/d
the negative sign comes into play based on http://www.physics.upenn.edu/courses/gladney/phys151/lectures/images/charging_capacitor_circuit.gif" picture I found on google images. I'm not actually sure why the capacitor charges in that manner, though.

Since B and E were true, my answer was "BE" which is wrong.

Help?
 
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hi bedarder! :smile:

(have an epsilon: ε and try using the X2 and X2 icons just above the Reply box :wink:)
bedarder said:
F = E*q
= Vq/d
= C*V^2/d

B.
true based on the inverse relationship demonstrated above

ah, but F = CV2/d has a C in it, which isn't constant :redface:
 
tiny-tim said:
ah, but F = CV2/d has a C in it, which isn't constant :redface:

Ok, so using C = ε*A/d, the equation now becomes
F = ε*A*V2/d2
which makes B false.

So then the answer is simply E? I only have one attempt left to get the question right.
 
bedarder said:
So then the answer is simply E? I only have one attempt left to get the question right.

i'm accepting no responsibility!

but for what it's worth, your arguments, on a quick perusal, don't have any obvious flaws :smile:
 
tiny-tim said:
i'm accepting no responsibility!

but for what it's worth, your arguments, on a quick perusal, don't have any obvious flaws :smile:


I felt bold and decided to go with "E", and got the question right!

Thank you tim!

You may be tiny, but your help was big :smile:
 
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