Checking answer for velocity of photoelectron

  • Thread starter Thread starter eldred
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Velocity
AI Thread Summary
The discussion centers around calculating the speed of an electron emitted with a kinetic energy of 0.200 eV when subjected to an accelerating voltage of 2.00 V. The total energy equation was used to find the electron's speed, yielding a result of approximately 879,077 m/s, which is feasible due to the short distances involved at the subatomic level. For the second part of the question regarding photoelectric current, the user initially struggled but later identified that the power absorbed by the photo-cathode and the efficiency of electron emission were key to calculating current. The final calculation suggested a current of 0.049 amps based on the absorbed power and voltage. The discussion emphasizes the distinction between voltage's role in accelerating emitted electrons and its lack of influence on the emission process itself.
eldred
Messages
4
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


Find the speed, v, which an electron, emitted with kinetic energy W = 0.200 eV, arrives at the anode when the accelerating voltage between the anode and the cathode is U = 2.00 V.

b) The value I of the photoelectric current

Homework Equations


From what i gather,
Etotal = Ekinetic + work function = qV + work function

The Attempt at a Solution



Im not sure if the first question is poorly worded or I'm just misunderstanding it, but I assume by 'kinetic energy W = 0.200' they mean the work function. I solved it like so

Etotal = Ekinetic + work function = qV + work function

ETOT = ((1.6x10-19)x(2) + (0.2 x 1.6x10-19)
= 3.52x10-19 joules
3.52x10-19 = 1/2 mv2, solving for v i get 879077m/s.

Does the electron actually move 879 KILOMETERS a second? Wow. Is this right? Is it true only because it travels a very short distance in total, over a short time? I'm having a hard time conceptualizing this.

Now for b
I'm really not sure how to approach this, I know current I = voltage / resistance, but it's not applicable in this situation,

from the last question we know that the voltage is (3.52x10-19)/(1.6x10-19) which seems to be 2.2 volts? But where do I go from here?If possible I need urgent clarification, I need to go sleep soon. Thanks for any help!
 
Physics news on Phys.org
eldred said:

Homework Statement


Find the speed, v, which an electron, emitted with kinetic energy W = 0.200 eV, arrives at the anode when the accelerating voltage between the anode and the cathode is U = 2.00 V.

b) The value I of the photoelectric current

Homework Equations


From what i gather,
Etotal = Ekinetic + work function = qV + work function

The Attempt at a Solution



Im not sure if the first question is poorly worded or I'm just misunderstanding it, but I assume by 'kinetic energy W = 0.200' they mean the work function. I solved it like so

Etotal = Ekinetic + work function = qV + work function

ETOT = ((1.6x10-19)x(2) + (0.2 x 1.6x10-19)
= 3.52x10-19 joules
3.52x10-19 = 1/2 mv2, solving for v i get 879077m/s.

Does the electron actually move 879 KILOMETERS a second? Wow. Is this right? Is it true only because it travels a very short distance in total, over a short time? I'm having a hard time conceptualizing this.

Now for b
I'm really not sure how to approach this, I know current I = voltage / resistance, but it's not applicable in this situation,

from the last question we know that the voltage is (3.52x10-19)/(1.6x10-19) which seems to be 2.2 volts? But where do I go from here?If possible I need urgent clarification, I need to go sleep soon. Thanks for any help!
Since it was said that the kinetic energy is 0.2eV, you will not need the work functiin of the metal.
 
eldred said:

Homework Statement


Find the speed, v, which an electron, emitted with kinetic energy W = 0.200 eV, arrives at the anode when the accelerating voltage between the anode and the cathode is U = 2.00 V.

b) The value I of the photoelectric current

Homework Equations


From what i gather,
Etotal = Ekinetic + work function = qV + work function

The Attempt at a Solution



Im not sure if the first question is poorly worded or I'm just misunderstanding it, but I assume by 'kinetic energy W = 0.200' they mean the work function. I solved it like so

Etotal = Ekinetic + work function = qV + work function

ETOT = ((1.6x10-19)x(2) + (0.2 x 1.6x10-19)
= 3.52x10-19 joules
3.52x10-19 = 1/2 mv2, solving for v i get 879077m/s.
I think they mean that the electron that escapes the surface is left with a kinetic energy W = 0.200 eV. Your calculation treated it this way, so the result looks fine.
Does the electron actually move 879 KILOMETERS a second? Wow. Is this right? Is it true only because it travels a very short distance in total, over a short time? I'm having a hard time conceptualizing this.
Yup. Subatomic particles can move really fast with small amounts of energy. They tend to run into obstacles pretty quickly when they're not in a vacuum.
Now for b
I'm really not sure how to approach this, I know current I = voltage / resistance, but it's not applicable in this situation,
from the last question we know that the voltage is (3.52x10-19)/(1.6x10-19) which seems to be 2.2 volts? But where do I go from here?
Current is also the rate of movement of charge: An ampere is a Coulomb per second.

Is there information missing in the problem statement that would allow you to quantify the rate of electron emission?
 
  • Like
Likes eldred
Ah yes! The question I've posted is a sub-question to a larger problem. I was also given this info:
The power absorbed by the photo-cathode is Pc = 0.540 W, but only 0.2% of this incident energy is effective in producing photoelectrons.
I have no clue how i didn't realize the rate of emission is right there.
Current I = power W / voltage V
So would this calculation be correct? I = (0.540 x 0.2) / 2.2 = 0.049 amps?

A big thank you for helping me with this!
:)
 
I would not look to the voltage as a contributor to the current. It doesn't cause the emission of the electrons from the surface of the cathode, it merely accelerates the ones that are emitted.

Instead, consider the rate at which the absorbed energy is being converted to emitted electrons (you know the energy they are each given).
 
Thread 'Variable mass system : water sprayed into a moving container'
Starting with the mass considerations #m(t)# is mass of water #M_{c}# mass of container and #M(t)# mass of total system $$M(t) = M_{C} + m(t)$$ $$\Rightarrow \frac{dM(t)}{dt} = \frac{dm(t)}{dt}$$ $$P_i = Mv + u \, dm$$ $$P_f = (M + dm)(v + dv)$$ $$\Delta P = M \, dv + (v - u) \, dm$$ $$F = \frac{dP}{dt} = M \frac{dv}{dt} + (v - u) \frac{dm}{dt}$$ $$F = u \frac{dm}{dt} = \rho A u^2$$ from conservation of momentum , the cannon recoils with the same force which it applies. $$\quad \frac{dm}{dt}...
TL;DR Summary: I came across this question from a Sri Lankan A-level textbook. Question - An ice cube with a length of 10 cm is immersed in water at 0 °C. An observer observes the ice cube from the water, and it seems to be 7.75 cm long. If the refractive index of water is 4/3, find the height of the ice cube immersed in the water. I could not understand how the apparent height of the ice cube in the water depends on the height of the ice cube immersed in the water. Does anyone have an...
Back
Top