Circuits 1 help with this circuit in a DC state

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around analyzing a circuit in a DC state, particularly focusing on the behavior of a capacitor before and after a switch is opened. Participants explore concepts related to circuit elements, node voltage analysis, and the implications of circuit changes over time.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why a 90V source and a 6-ohm resistor seem to "disappear" in the circuit analysis for t<0, suggesting it may be due to current not flowing that way.
  • Another participant explains that the 90V source and 6-ohm resistor are effectively removed from consideration because the switch branch blocks any effects on the rest of the circuit, as no potential difference can develop across a perfect conductor.
  • There is a query about the assignment of a double negative in a node voltage equation, indicating a potential misunderstanding in the formulation of the KCL equation at node V1.
  • One participant reports a solution for part d of the problem, yielding a current of 10e^-2000t Amps, and seeks guidance on how to approach part e.
  • Another participant notes that for part e, the analysis must consider the capacitor's behavior at two different times: t = 0- (steady state) and t = 0+ (just after the switch opens), emphasizing that the capacitor behaves as an open circuit at steady state and as a voltage source immediately after the switch opens.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the behavior of the capacitor in steady state and immediately after the switch opens, but there are unresolved questions regarding the specific calculations and interpretations of the circuit elements.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about circuit behavior, particularly concerning the instantaneous effects of the capacitor and the definitions of current flow in the circuit.

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Students and individuals studying circuit analysis, particularly those dealing with capacitors in DC circuits and node voltage methods.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


for t<0 I understand that Capacitor acts as an open circuit and goes away but why did the 90v and 6ohm resistor disappeared? is it because current doesn't go that way? and also in that KCL at node V1 wouldn't it be v1-(30)/6 + v1/6 + v1-(-2ix)/8 ?

The Attempt at a Solution


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sammyqw said:
for t<0 I understand that Capacitor acts as an open circuit and goes away but why did the 90v and 6ohm resistor disappeared? is it because current doesn't go that way? and also in that KCL at node V1 wouldn't it be v1-(30)/6 + v1/6 + v1-(-2ix)/8 ?
The 90v and 6ohm resistor "disappear" because the switch branch blocks any effects it might have on the rest of the circuit. No potential difference can be developed across a perfect conductor. Any current in the leftmost loop will be confined there.

Why do you assign a double negative to the last term (the "ix" term")?

As far as I can tell the solution in the image is fine as far as it goes. Of course it doesn't answer the problem's part (a), which wants the capacitor voltage.
 
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yeah it makes sense now thanks. For part d i got 10e^-2000t Amps ,how can I find part e?
 
sammyqw said:
yeah it makes sense now thanks. For part d i got 10e^-2000t Amps ,how can I find part e?
I haven't done the math for part (d) so I have no comment to make on your suggested solution. If you want to have it checked, present the details of your work.

Part (e) asks for ix at times t = 0- and t = 0+. One is during steady state and the other just after the switch opening. For the first you can ignore the capacitor because at steady state it won't impact any currents -- it behaves as an open circuit. At t = 0+ things are changing so you need to consider the capacitor. For that instant of time you can replace the capacitor with a voltage source that has the same potential difference that the capacitor had the instant before the switch opened (capacitors can't change their potential difference instantaneously). The resulting circuit can be solved by the usual methods. Naturally the solution only applies to that instant after the switch opens.
 

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