Coal Gasifier - Thermodynamics Question

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The discussion revolves around understanding the concept of equilibrium equations in the context of coal gasifiers, specifically how to derive them from given reaction equations. The user is confused about the definitions and applications of equilibrium equations and composition in thermodynamics, particularly in relation to the reactions involving CO, H2O, CH4, H2, CO2, and CO. Participants emphasize the importance of mass balance and conservation principles to solve for the composition based on the input and output of the gasifier. The conversation highlights the need for clarity in interpreting the problem and applying thermodynamic concepts effectively. Overall, the thread seeks to clarify the relationship between reaction equations and equilibrium in a gasifier system.
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Homework Statement


The problem is in the attached picture. I simply do not know what an "equilibrium equation" is and what it means by the composition. My professor is unbelievably difficult to get a straight, understandable answer from. I've already taken thermodynamics, but we did not learn about coal gasifiers.

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Homework Equations


k = (ycc * ydd) / (yaa * ybb) when P = Patm

The Attempt at a Solution


I believe that the boxed in equations are the answers to part (a), the "independent reaction equations" and there would be 2 of them.
My teacher made it sound like these were also the "equilibrium equations" as the answer for part (b), but then where would the "composition" come from?

I believe that the equilibrium equation would be something like this:
(y/2) O2 + (y) C + x H2O --> aCH4 + bH2 + cH2O + dCO + eCO2
And then the composition would be the coefficients, but my teacher made me believe that this was incorrect.

Can someone give an example of what an "equilibrium equation" is? I know there is something called the "equilibrium constant", which he gave us a handout to find values for, but I have no clue how to use it.
Then I will attempt to solve for the equilibrium equation and the composition of this one and then check back in.

Thanks!
 
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Come on, you took thermodynamics and you don't know what the reaction and equilibrium is?

You have a mixture components of which undergo several reactions, when the mixture leaves the gasifier all reactions are at equilibrium. This is not different from any other chemical system.

You have two reaction equations written in pencil - what are they?
 
Borek said:
Come on, you took thermodynamics and you don't know what the reaction and equilibrium is?

You have a mixture components of which undergo several reactions, when the mixture leaves the gasifier all reactions are at equilibrium. This is not different from any other chemical system.

You have two reaction equations written in pencil - what are they?
The equations are:
CO + H2O = CO2 + H2
CO + 3H2 = H2O + CH4

I took thermo, I didn't say I was very good at it though. I'm confused about how to solve for the composition from the equilibrium equations and from the input of O2, H2O and C to the output of CH4, H2, H2O, CO, and CO2.
 
Rett said:
The equations are:
CO + H2O = CO2 + H2
CO + 3H2 = H2O + CH4

No problem with reading them, I asked what they are - why are they included? (hint: they are quite useful here).

Have you heard about mass balance? Or at least about mass conservation?
 
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