Conservation of Angular Momentum; angle of rotation

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The discussion focuses on a physics problem involving a block sliding down a ramp and colliding with a rod, leading to questions about the conservation of angular momentum and energy. The user calculated the angular speed and kinetic energy after the collision but struggled to determine the angle θ through which the system rotates before coming to rest. It was clarified that during the inelastic collision, angular momentum is conserved, while energy is not. After the collision, energy conservation applies as the system swings upward. The user is encouraged to apply these principles to find the angle θ.
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Homework Statement


A block of mass m slides down a frictionless ramp from height h above the floor. At the base of the ramp it collides and sticks to the lower end of a uniform rod, length L, mass 2m, that is suspended about a pivot at point O, about which it is free to rotate. Express answers in terms of m, g, h, and L.
Find the angle θ through which the system rotates before momentarily coming to rest after the collision.

Homework Equations


I used conservation of energy to determine angular speed ω immediately after collision: Ei = Ef
I used v = Rω to find kinetic energy of the system after collision.

The Attempt at a Solution


I found ω to be √6gh/5L^2 ; I found kinetic energy after the collision to be (9/5)(mgh). However, I'm at a loss at how to find the angle θ. I tried using conservation of angular momentum but became confused - if the initial point is immediately after collision and the final point is when the system is momentarily at rest, that means Li = 0. There has to be a mistake in my reasoning somewhere; I need help bridging this gap I have in my angular knowledge.
 
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Hello, and welcome to PF! :smile:

Note:
(1) "collides and sticks" ⇒ inelastic collision.
(2) What quantity is actually conserved during the collision?
(3) Angular momentum is not conserved for the "swinging up" after the collision. What quantity is conserved for the swing up?
 
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Ah, so

1) and 2) Since it is an inelastic collision, energy is not conserved but momentum (angular) is during the collision
3) Would energy be conserved for the "swinging up" after the collision?
 
Knight to b2 said:
Ah, so

1) and 2) Since it is an inelastic collision, energy is not conserved but momentum (angular) is during the collision
3) Would energy be conserved for the "swinging up" after the collision?
Yes. Good.
 
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