Conservation of Energy in a Pulley System

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In a pulley system with two masses, m1 and m2, energy conservation principles dictate that the potential energy of m1 equals the combined kinetic energies of both masses when m1 hits the ground. The initial potential energy of m1 is expressed as m1*g*h, while the final energy includes the potential energy of m2 and the kinetic energies of both masses. The correct equation incorporates the potential energy of m2 and the kinetic energies of both m1 and m2, leading to the formula: sqrt(2*(m1*g*h - m2*g*h)/(m1 + m2)) = v. This approach clarifies the energy transformations occurring in the system. Understanding these energy changes is crucial for solving similar problems in physics.
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Homework Statement


Two masses are connected by a light string passing over a light, frictionless pulley, as shown in the figure below. The mass m1 (which is greater than m2) is released from rest. Use the isolated system model to answer the following.
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In terms of m1, m2, and h, determine the speed of m2 just as m1 hits the ground (Use m_1 for m1, m_2 for m2, g, and h as appropriate.)

Homework Equations


Ug=mgh
KE=.5mv^2

The Attempt at a Solution


Since energy is conserved, I figured that the potential energy of m1 would equal the kinetic energy of m2.
I used the equation:
Ug=KE
m_1*g*h=.5*m_2*v^2
sqrt((2*m_1*g*h)/m_2)=v
This answer is incorrect so I was thinking that perhaps that m2 would raise to the same height h as m2 dropped and that m2 would have some kinetic and some potential energy.
I used this equation:
Ug=Ug+KE
m_1*g*h=m_2*g*h+.5*m_2*v^2
sqrt((2*m_1*g*h-2*m_2*g*h)/m_2)=v
This answer was also incorrect so I'm not sure where to go from here.
 
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You were correct to take into account the changes in potential energy of both masses. But the kinetic energies of both masses also change.

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ohhh so the energy at the beginning would be just potential energy and at the end it would be the potential energy of m2 plus the kinetic of m1 and of m2
Ug=Ug+KE+KE
m_1*g*h=m_2*g*h+.5*m_2*v^2+.5*m_1*v^2
sqrt(2*(m_1*g*h-m_2*g*h)/(m_2+m_1)=v
 
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