Could Liquid Neon Be a Viable Rocket Fuel?

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Neon has an expansion ratio of 1:1400 when transitioning from liquid to gas, raising questions about its viability as rocket fuel. The discussion explores the energy requirements for using neon, particularly whether it would be more effective below its triple point or as a supercritical fluid at room temperature. The importance of evaluating potential fuels based on stored energy rather than just expansion ratios is emphasized. Comparisons are made to water-steam, which, despite a high expansion ratio, is ineffective as rocket fuel without added energy. Overall, the conversation highlights the complexities of assessing neon and similar substances for rocket propulsion.
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It is my understanding that when neon goes from a liquid to a gas, it has an expansion ratio of 1:1400. Would using N- and N+ be a realistic rocket fuel? I understand that it would take a lot of energy but is there a way to figure out how much?
 
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Are you talking about operating below the triple point (-229 deg C)? Or are you talking about using it as supercritical fluid at room temp? At what pressure?
 
It's probably best to look at a potential fuel from a stored energy standpoint than an expansion ratio standpoint. Water-steam has an expansion ratio of about 1:1700, but the expansion actually requires energy added, making water by itself useless as a rocket fuel (however Hydrogen Peroxide H2O2 is useful with a catalyst because it is an exothermic reaction and creates steam and oxygen).
 
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