Deriving equation for electrostatic force.

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The discussion focuses on deriving an equation for the electrostatic force acting on a stationary test charge connected to a string. The participant identifies that the vertical component of the tension force equals the weight of the ball (mg), while the horizontal component equals the electrostatic force. They attempt to eliminate the tension force from their equations, leading to a complex derivation involving trigonometric identities. Ultimately, they confirm that a simpler method would involve directly comparing the electrostatic force to the gravitational force. The conversation highlights the importance of simplifying equations in physics problem-solving.
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Homework Statement


Basically I am given an image showing a test charge tied to a string where there is the ball is stationary. I need to use the fact that there is no net force on the ball to derive an equation for the electrostatic force in terms of g, the angle, and the mass of the ball. Unfortunately I am stuck. :(


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The Attempt at a Solution



Well I know that the vertical portion of F_{T} is equal in magnitude to mg, and the horizontal portion of F_{T} is equal in magnitude to the electromagnetic force. But I don't see how to tie it together to derive an equation. :redface:
 
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How about trying to eliminate F_T from the equations.
 
Ok sure let me try ;-).

If I am speaking about magnitudes only,

F_{T}^{2}=F_{g}^{2}+F_{e}^{2}

Or

F_{e}^{2}=F_{g}^{2}-F_{T}^{2}

But F_{T}=\frac{F_{E}}{Sin\Theta}

So

\frac{F_{e}^{2}}{(Sin\Theta)^{2}}=F_{e}^{2}+F_{g}^{2}

F_{e}^{2}=F_{e}^{2}(Sin\Theta)^{2}+F_{g}^{2}(Sin\Theta)^{2}

moving the fe^2(sin(theta))^2 to the left side then factoring out 1-sin(theta)^2 from the left side and converting it to cos(theta)^2 I get:

F_{e}=\sqrt{(tan\Theta)^{2}m^{2}g^{2}}

Does it look right?
 
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Yes that's right. But a simpler way, actually the simplest, would have been to divide the expression for F_e by that of F_g.
 
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