Determining Total Impedance: Q&A

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In summary, the conversation includes a discussion of determining the total impedance Zt by finding the sum of two complex numbers Z1 and Z2. The conversation also touches on converting from Cartesian form to polar form and the importance of accuracy in calculations.
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My Working for part (i); Determine the total impedance Zt:

Z1=70+j0 + 0+j50
=70+j50
= 86.023<35.537°Ω

1/Z2=1/-j80 + 1/86.023<35.537°
=j0.0125+0.0116<-35.537°

My question is do 35.537° need to be divided by 1 like 86.023? If not why?Thanks.
 

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My Full working:

Z1=70+j0 + 0+j50
=70+j50
= 86.023<35.537°Ω

1/Z2=1/-j80 + 1/86.023<35.537°
=j0.0125+0.0116<-35.537°
=j0.0125+0.0094-j0.00674
=0.0094-j0.00549
=0.0108<-30.28°
Z2=92.59<-30.28°

Zt= 100+92.59<-30.28°
=192.59<-30.28°

Ans is: 183.34<-14.82°
 
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freshbox said:
My Full working:

Z1=70+j0 + 0+j50
=70+j50
= 86.023<35.537°Ω

1/Z2=1/-j80 + 1/86.023<35.537°
=j0.0125+0.0116<-35.537°
=j0.0125+0.0094-j0.00674
=0.0094-j0.00549
=0.0108<-30.28°
Z2=92.59<-30.28°
You've lost some accuracy due to rounding and truncation of intermediate values. Keep more decimal places for intermediate values and round final values for presentation. Z2's magnitude will turn out to be slightly smaller than you've found, and its angle's magnitude a bit larger.
Zt= 100+92.59<-30.28°
=192.59<-30.28°
Oops. You can't add the polar value to a Cartesian value like that; you need to deal with the angle.
 
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Oops, do you mean I have to change 192.59<-30.28° to rect form since I'm doing addtion?

Changing to rect form:
R1=100+j0
Z2=79.95-j46.68

Zt=100+j0+79.95-j46.68
Zt=179.95-46.68

Ans is still wrong, kinda far :(
 
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freshbox said:
Oops, do you mean I have to change 192.59<-30.28° to rect form since I'm doing addtion?

Changing to rect form:
R1=100+j0
Z2=79.95-j46.68

Zt=100+j0+79.95-j46.68
Zt=179.95-46.68

Ans is still wrong, kinda far :(

Fix your accuracy issue for determining Z2.
 
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1/Z2=1/-j80 + 1/86.0232<35.5376°
=j0.0125+0.01162477<-35.537°
=j0.0125+0.009459473-j0.006756747
=0.009459473+j0.005743253
=0.011066462<31.26373489°
=90.36311575<-31.26373489°
=77.24125762-j46.89

Zt=100+j0+77.24125762-j46.89
Zt=177.24-j46.89 (Wrong Answer)

Book answer is 183.34<-14.82°
 
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freshbox said:
1/Z2=1/-j80 + 1/86.0232<35.5376°
=j0.0125+0.01162477<-35.537°
=j0.0125+0.009459473-j0.006756747
=0.009459473+j0.005743253
=0.011066462<31.26373489°
=90.36311575<-31.26373489°
=77.24125762-j46.89

Zt=100+j0+77.24125762-j46.89
Zt=177.24-j46.89 (Wrong Answer) <--- Convert to polar

Book answer is 183.34<-14.82°

Book answer is in polar form. Convert your Zt to polar.
 
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-_- what am I'm thinking.. Thanks a lot gneill!

Oh I want to ask
1/Z2=1/-j80 + 1/86.023<35.537°
=j0.0125+0.0116<-35.537°

How come the degree cannot/don't have to divide by 1?
 
  • #9
freshbox said:
-_- what am I'm thinking.. Thanks a lot gneill!

Oh I want to ask
1/Z2=1/-j80 + 1/86.023<35.537°
=j0.0125+0.0116<-35.537°

How come the degree cannot/don't have to divide by 1?

You mean why does the angle of some complex number Z just get negated when you perform 1/Z? The angles a geometrical aspect of the number, denoting the direction of the phasor. Angles get added and subtracted, but not divided or multiplied.

You can see how the result occurs if you work out the reciprocal in Cartesian form:

$$ Y = \frac{1 + 0j}{A + Bj}$$

Compare the polar angles of (A + Bj) with the angle of the result of the division. Also, you'll find that in the general case (Z1<θ1) / (Z2<θ2) = (Z1/Z2)<(θ1 - θ2) .
 
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Thank you sir for your time and help :)
 

Related to Determining Total Impedance: Q&A

1. What is impedance?

Impedance is a measure of the total opposition to the flow of electricity in a circuit. It is represented by the symbol Z and is measured in Ohms (Ω).

2. How is impedance calculated?

Impedance is calculated by taking into account the resistance, capacitance, and inductance of a circuit. The formula for calculating impedance is Z = √(R^2 + (Xl - Xc)^2), where R is the resistance, Xl is the inductive reactance, and Xc is the capacitive reactance.

3. What is the difference between impedance and resistance?

Resistance is a measure of the opposition to the flow of electricity in a circuit caused by the material it is made of, while impedance takes into account the effects of both resistance and reactance (capacitance and inductance) in a circuit.

4. How does impedance affect circuit performance?

Impedance plays a crucial role in determining the performance of a circuit. It affects the flow of electricity, voltage, and current in the circuit, and can have a significant impact on the efficiency and stability of the circuit.

5. How can impedance be measured?

Impedance can be measured using specialized equipment such as an impedance meter or an oscilloscope. It can also be calculated using the formula mentioned above by measuring the individual components of the circuit (resistance, capacitance, and inductance).

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