Difference between force-elongation and stress - strain diagram?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion focuses on the differences between force-elongation diagrams and stress-strain diagrams, exploring their definitions, relationships, and examples. Participants seek clarification on the concepts and request visual representations to aid understanding.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Technical explanation
  • Meta-discussion

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that stress is derived from force and is defined as force divided by cross-sectional area, while strain is defined as the ratio of change in elongation to initial elongation.
  • Another participant suggests that "force-elongation" is more commonly referred to as "load-displacement" and emphasizes that load and displacement are directly measured to calculate stress and strain.
  • Several links to external resources are provided by a participant, including definitions and discussions on stress-strain diagrams, although they express difficulty in finding a clear example of a load-displacement curve alongside its derived stress-strain curve.
  • One participant requests diagrams for both force-elongation and stress-strain cases to enhance understanding.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the definitions and relationships between stress, strain, force, and elongation, but there is no consensus on the availability of clear examples or diagrams illustrating these concepts.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the definitions of elongation and displacement are present, and the discussion lacks specific examples of diagrams that clearly differentiate between the two types of curves.

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what is the difference between force-elongation and stress - strain diagram??

pls show some example such as diagrams for future reference

thanx
 
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Well, stress is derived from force. Stress is the force divided by cross-sectional area.

By elongation, does one mean displacement? Strain is derived from elongation or displacement, and is the ratio of the change in elongation (displacement) to the intial elongation (displacement).

I believe that the term "force-elongation" is more commonly known as "load-displacement", and load and displacement are 'directly measured', and from these the corresponding stress and strain are calculated. Nowadays, tensile test machines have digital instrumentation and software to automatically calculate stress and strain from measured load and displacement.
 
may i have some diagrams for the two cases above??

thanx
 
http://www-ec.njit.edu/civil/som/define.html - find the entry for Stress - Strain Diagram. This page is useful for definitions.

Also see this discussion - http://www.ae.msstate.edu/vlsm/materials/stress_strain_diagrams/stress_strain_diagrams.htm

http://www.ni.com/pdf/academic/us/me105_lab3_2003.pdf (save target as) - useful discussion of engineering vs true stress-strain.

http://www.tpub.com/content/doe/h1017v1/css/h1017v1_69.htm

http://physics.uwstout.edu/Statstr/statics/Stress/strs32.htm

http://web.mit.edu/course/3/3.11/www/pset03/Definitions.pdf - (save target as)

Here is an image of a load-displacement curve, however the person placed stress and strain titles next to it and describes the image as a stress-strain curve. The title of the abscissa is "Deflection (in)", which indicates elongation or displacement.
http://invsee.asu.edu/srinivas/stress-strain/phase.html

This might be useful - http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/theses/available/etd-6197-6556/unrestricted/ch3.PDF (use save target as)

I am unable to find an example of a load-displacement curve and the derived stress-strain curve.
 
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thanx...
 

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