Difference between partical shear stress and boundary shear stress

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The discussion revolves around the difference between boundary shear stress and particle shear stress in the context of estimating critical shear stresses for sediments in civil hydraulics. Participants explore theoretical and practical implications of these concepts, particularly in open channel flow scenarios.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on the difference between boundary shear stress and particle shear stress, questioning how results might differ based on which is used for calculations.
  • Another participant discusses the turbulent nature of open channel flow and introduces equations related to momentum, mass, and heat transfer, suggesting a connection to shear stress.
  • A different participant explains that for sediment transport, the shear stress exerted by the fluid must exceed a critical shear stress, which is determined by the particle's size and density, but expresses unfamiliarity with the term "particle shear stress."
  • One participant requests a more qualitative explanation of the concepts, indicating difficulty with the quantitative aspects presented earlier.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of understanding the boundary layer and its role in determining bed shear stress, although they express uncertainty about the necessity of a boundary layer.
  • A later reply highlights that hydraulics, particularly in rough erodible channels, is semi-empirical and discusses the Shields equation for critical shear stress, along with various empirical methods for estimating shear exerted by flow.
  • It is noted that the boundary layer exists due to the no-slip boundary condition, leading to a gradient of shear stress from zero at the boundary to a constant value in the bulk fluid.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and familiarity with the concepts discussed, leading to some confusion and a lack of consensus on the definitions and implications of boundary and particle shear stress. Multiple competing views and interpretations remain present throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some participants indicate limitations in their understanding of the quantitative aspects of shear stress and the boundary layer, suggesting a need for clearer definitions and explanations. The discussion includes semi-empirical methods and equations that may not be universally agreed upon or understood.

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Hi all,

I am currently studying civil hydraulics in my civil engineering course and we are going through estimating critical shear stresses for sediments. I am confused about the difference between boundary shear stress and particle shear stress. In terms of estimating critical shear stress, is there a difference between using particle shear stress and using boundary shear stress?

How would our results differ by choosing boundary/particle shear stress to begin with?

Thanks everyone in advance!
 
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I assume you are studying open channel flow, which is generally turbulent, except in the boundary layer.
This is reflected in an additional term in the viscosity - shear relationship
The total transport in any fluid is given by the sum of the molecular transport and the turbulent trnasport.

Measuring y from the bottom up with y' the thickness of the boundary layer


For turbulent flow the general equations are

momentum transfer


{\tau _{xy}} = \rho (\upsilon + \varepsilon )\frac{{\partial \overline v }}{{\partial y}}


mass transfer


w = - \left( {D + {E_m}} \right)\frac{{\partial \overline c }}{{\partial y}}


Heat transfer


q = - \rho {C_p}\left( {\alpha + {E_h}} \right)\frac{{\partial \overline \theta }}{{\partial y}}


leading to


{\tau _{xy}} = \rho \varepsilon \frac{{\partial \overline v }}{{\partial y}}\;for\;y \ge y'

Where epsilon is the turbulent factor

From this you can develop the various open channel flow formulae.

See Von Karman and Prandtl in particular.
 
I am not a sediment transport expert but I know that in order for a sedimentary particle to be moved by a fluid, the shear stress exerted on it by the fluid must be greater than a critical shear stress determined by the particle's size and density. The boundary shear stress is the shear stress between the fluid and the particle at the boundary between the two. I am not really familiar with the particle shear stress terminology.
 
Thanks Studiot for your very detailed explanation, however we haven't been doing much on the quantitative side so I found it a bit hard to follow the formulas you have mentioned above as I don't have much background in it. Would there be a more qualitative way of going about this question. Would you be able to explain the particle shear stress terminology as I have not been able to find anything on it anywhere..

Boneh3ad, thanks for the explanation about the boundary shear stress. I have been researching particle shear stress and haven't been successful in finding anything.
 
OK, let's take a step back.

Do you understand what the boundary layer is? and importantly why there has to be one?
 
From my understanding the boundary layer determines the amount of bed shear stress? so it helps us with calculations. But I am not too sure why there needs to be one.
 
OK I am sorry I thought you were looking to develop a more theoretical approach.

The whole subject of hydraulics and in particular rough erodible channel hydraulics is semi-empirical.

It is known that water flow in such channels exerts a traction parallel to the channel sides and bed. Thus this is a shear.

The common semiempirical Shields equation is


{\tau _{critical}} = c\left( {{\rho _{solid}} - {\rho _{water}}} \right)gd

Where c is an empirical constant around 0.05

This describes the critical shear to drive an exposed aprticle of diameter d along a horizontal bed.
This is reduced on sloping side walls by a function of the angle of repose.

In order to find a value for The shear imposed by a given flow we again employ semi-empirical methods and formulae associated wth Darcy, Chezy or Manning, Muller, Einstein or Meyer
These provide the tractive force or shear exerted on the boundary bed and walls by a given flow velocity or discharge rate (which amounts to the same thing knowing the cross sectional area).

Thus we can estimate the flow rate at which the tractive shear will first exceed the critical shear.

The appropriate values are built into these equations. which are deduced on dimensional arguments and then brought into line with reality by measured constants. That is what is meant by semi-empirical.

There is no one value for shear in the boundary layer. The boundary layer exists because water obeys the no slip boundary condition. That is the water touching the container boundary is at rest relative to it and the viscous shear increases rapidly from zero to the constant value in the bulk fluid.

To estimate this one has to consider momentum transport across a section of the boundary layer parallel to the flow and integrate perpendicular to the flow. I will post a derivation if you like.
 

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