Doppler effect and hydrogen alpha distributions

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The discussion revolves around the Doppler effect and its implications for the hydrogen alpha distributions in the context of a rotating planet or galaxy. Participants are exploring the expected spectral distribution of emissions and the factors influencing it.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning the assumptions regarding the uniformity of wavelength distribution due to rotation. There are discussions about whether the emissions are from a specific region or the galaxy as a whole, and how this affects the observed spectrum.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the problem, with participants raising questions about the clarity of the original question and the implications of different interpretations. Some guidance is offered regarding the potential contributions from various regions of the galaxy, but no consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of clarity in the question regarding the presence of gas and the specific context of the emissions, which may lead to misunderstandings about the expected spectral distribution.

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https://www.asi.edu.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/PhysicsASOE2014solutions.pdf
q14 b) i)
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https://www.asi.edu.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/PhysicsASOE2014solutions.pdf

q 14b) i)

Assuming that the planet is rotating at a constant rate, shouldn't the distribution be even across all wavelengths, or do I have something very wrong with my model.
I take the graph as the summation of rays from points on a planet which rotates. Each point similarly rotates and causes an equal amount of each wavelength.
 
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aspodkfpo said:
Assuming that the planet is rotating at a constant rate, shouldn't the distribution be even across all wavelengths, or do I have something very wrong with my model.
I take the graph as the summation of rays from points on a planet which rotates. Each point similarly rotates and causes an equal amount of each wavelength.
Planet? Am I looking at the right question?
The question is poorly explained. I see no mention of gas until we come to the solution, so the student will naturally think these emissions are from the stars. Neither is it clear whether we are concerned with the spectrum from some specific part of the galaxy or from the galaxy as a whole. The mention of "fast rotating" region makes it sound like the former, but I think they want the expected spectrum for the galaxy as a whole when taking into account the contributions from the fast regions.
This is important because if it is for the whole galaxy then we have both fast towards us and fast away from us, leading to the symmetric widening in the answer graph.

Does that answer your question?
 
haruspex said:
Planet? Am I looking at the right question?
The question is poorly explained. I see no mention of gas until we come to the solution, so the student will naturally think these emissions are from the stars. Neither is it clear whether we are concerned with the spectrum from some specific part of the galaxy or from the galaxy as a whole. The mention of "fast rotating" region makes it sound like the former, but I think they want the expected spectrum for the galaxy as a whole when taking into account the contributions from the fast regions.
This is important because if it is for the whole galaxy then we have both fast towards us and fast away from us, leading to the symmetric widening in the answer graph.

Does that answer your question?
nope, I don't see why it wouldn't be the same % for each wavelength, i.e. straight line distribution.
 
aspodkfpo said:
nope, I don't see why it wouldn't be the same % for each wavelength, i.e. straight line distribution.
On one side of the galaxy you have stars and hot gas clouds rushing towards you (relative to the galaxy as a whole) at great speed, giving a blue shift, while on the other side they are are rushing away. I'm not sure which regions move fastest... if it is like planets around a star, the ones nearest the galactic centre will give the greatest shift.
But there's a limit to how fast they can go, and relatively few can be near the centre, so most of the shifts will be modest.
 

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