Electric field insulating rod Question

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The discussion revolves around understanding the electric field generated by a charged insulating rod, specifically how to derive the x-component of the electric field while considering symmetry. The y-components of the electric field cancel out due to symmetry, but the x-component remains and is calculated by integrating the contributions from each segment of the charge. The confusion arises regarding the direction of the electric field, which points towards the negatively charged arc rather than away from it, as indicated by the negative sign in the solution. The participants emphasize the importance of integrating the differential electric field (dE) contributions to accurately determine the net electric field at point O. Understanding these concepts is crucial for mastering topics in Electricity and Magnetism.
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Homework Statement


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This is problem I have found online and this is the part I don't understand how they come up with this.
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How did they get this for the x component since y component cancel out due to being symmetry ?
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I think they are trying to find dE not E...
 
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The above is the formula given in my lecture note .

In the solution provided in the problem , it is given as
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which means that
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is the unit direction of the component.

In this case , since there is no y component (symmetry) , it has only x component but how do they get
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?
 
The y component will cancel out I think when you take the Integral over all points towards point O. I believe the formula ( at the end ) provided in the solution is trying to calculate the dE at point O.
Wait for more qualified members to reply. I am taking Electricity and Magnetism course right now :)
 
The diagram in your first post shows you dE; it's the field you'll see at O due to the charge contained in the short length, dl. The electric field at any point has both a magnitude (illustrated by the arrow having a length) and a direction (shown by the angle of arrow dE to the reference axes).

It's not until you sum the fields due to multiple fragments of charge will you see cancellations, this entails integrating dE for all of the line charge.
 
ToonBlue said:

Homework Statement


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Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



This is problem I have found online and this is the part I don't understand how they come up with this.
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How did they get this for the x component since y component cancel out due to being symmetry ?
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The y component cancels out only after you have integrated dE.
 
May I know why does the dE point away and not toward the dL?
 
ToonBlue said:
May I know why does the dE point away and not toward the dL?[/QUOThe arc L is negatively charged. The direction of the E field is the direction of the force on a positive unit of charge. So the E field is directed towards the arc L, as you say.
If you got the impression it's directed away from L it's probably because of the picture. However, the picture is still right since the answer is negative.
 
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