Electric Field problem ( with integral)

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The discussion revolves around solving an integral related to finding the electric field at a point on the x-axis. The user is struggling with integrating in terms of y while treating x as a constant. They attempt a trigonometric substitution to simplify the integral, drawing a triangle to relate the variables. After performing the integration, they arrive at a result and seek confirmation on its correctness. The response indicates that their approach appears to be correct.
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This is from an example problem in my textbook.
Here's a link to a picture of the integral I'm having trouble with:
http://puu.sh/3ApyU.png

It shows the answer but I'm really not sure how they got there, or where to begin really. How do I integrate in terms of y with those x's in there? Any help would be appreciated.

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Guess it'd help if y'all could see the problem. I searched for it online and this is basically it:
http://puu.sh/3Aq4f.png

Only difference is this one's from 0 to a while mine is -a to a. Also, my question just reads "Find the electric field at point P on the x-axis at a distance x from the origin." I understand everything up to solving the integral for the x-component
 
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Treat 'x' as a constant. You are integrating with respect to 'y'. You should be able to find the integral using what you learned in calculus. If you have forgotten what you learned in calculus, then find a table of integrals and put the integral into a suitable form.
 
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SteamKing said:
Treat 'x' as a constant. You are integrating with respect to 'y'. You should be able to find the integral using what you learned in calculus. If you have forgotten what you learned in calculus, then find a table of integrals and put the integral into a suitable form.

Ok, I'm trying to use trig-sub but I'm not sure I'm doing it right:

I drew a triangle with y on the opposite end, x on the adjacent end, and √(x^2+y^2) as the hypotenuse.

With this, I have cosθ = x/√(x^2+y^2)

To make it match what's in the integrand, I put:

cos^3θ/x^2 = x^3/(x^2+y^2)

Now for the dy, I have tanθ = y/x, so y = xtanθ and dy = xsec^2θdθ

So now my integral looks like:

∫cosθ/x dθ | [-a,a]

(1/x)∫cosθdθ | [-a,a]

=(1/x)sinθ | [-a,a]

Subbing back in for sinθ:

= y/x√(x^2+y^2) | [-a, a]

= a/x√(x^2+a^2) - (-a/x√(x^2+a^2))

= 2a/x√(x^2+a^2)

Is this correct so far? Or did I mess up somewhere?
 
The integral is of the form
\int \mathrm{d} x f'(x) F[f(x)].
The standard substitution for such cases is
u=f(x), \quad \mathrm{d} u=\mathrm{d} x f'(x).
This leads to
\int \mathrm{d} u F(u).
 
izelkay said:
Now for the dy, I have tanθ = y/x, so y = xtanθ and dy = xsec^2θdθ

So now my integral looks like:

∫cosθ/x dθ | [-a,a]

(1/x)∫cosθdθ | [-a,a]

=(1/x)sinθ | [-a,a]

Subbing back in for sinθ:

= y/x√(x^2+y^2) | [-a, a]

= a/x√(x^2+a^2) - (-a/x√(x^2+a^2))

= 2a/x√(x^2+a^2)

Is this correct so far? Or did I mess up somewhere?

It looks correct.

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