Electric flux calculation in case of a cylinder

In summary, the electric field is parallel to the sides of a right circular cylinder, but there is a net outward flux through the cylinder.
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Homework Statement



an electric field is uniform,and in the positive x direction for positive x,and uniform with the same magnitude but in the negative x direction for negative x.it is given that vector E=200 I^ (N/C) for x>0 and vector E= -200 (N/C) for x<0 .A right circular cylinder of length 20 cm and radius 5 cm has it's center at the origin and it's axis along the x-axis so that one face is at x=+10 cm and the other is at x=-10 cm
a)what is the flux through the side of the cylinder?
b)what is the net outward flux through the cylinder?
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Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution


a)in my book it has been given that Vector E is parallel to sides of cylinder so flux through sides =0
My understanding regarding this explanation of Vector E to be parallel to sides of cylinder is to point out that that electric fields do not even pass through sides of cylinder because the angle between vector E and area vector of sides of cylinder is 90 degrees so no flux.Am I correct?
b)net outward flux=flux through faces (as flux through sides is zero)
=vector E.vector A +vector 'E.vector A
=0
But solution of this is given to be
=2EA
=3.14 Nm^2/C
I don't understand why?why magnitude of 'E is taken as 200 N/C but not -200 N/C
I thought negative sign is part of magnitude because it does not symbolize/indicate direction as direction is specified by vector i.
 
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Well it sounds like you've got an infinite plane of charge. You're right in saying that the flux throug h the sides of the cylinder is zero because the field is everywhere tangent to the sides. The end faces are perpendicular to the field and the field is uniform so [tex]\oint \vec E \bullet d \vec A[/tex] just becomes EA. But the cylinder has two ends, and the vector A is in the same direction as the field in both cases (away from the y axis) so the flux through each end is EA. You have two lots of EA. i.e Total flux = 2EA

The important you're missing is that the question is asking for the flux 'out' of the cylinder. The field exits the cylinder at both ends meaning there is charge enclosed within the surface and so there is a net flux out of the cylinder. If there was no charge enclosed, then the flux in one end would equal the flux out the other and there would be zero net flux.
 
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gracy said:
why magnitude of 'E is taken as 200 N/C but not -200 N/C
 
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gracy said:
it is given that vector E=200 I^ (N/C) for x>0 and vector E= -200 (N/C) for x<0
gracy said:
why magnitude of 'E is taken as 200 N/C but not -200 N/C
 
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The negative sign is simply giving you the direction of the field so you can compare that with the direction of the vector A. The magnitude is simply the absolute value of E. The strength of the field, not concerned with direction.

Think of the flux through the end of the cylinder as being like water flowing out the end of a pipe. If you there is water flowing out both opposite ends of the pipe, would you say the total water flowing out of the pipe was zero? Or would you say it is double the water flowing out one end?

Hopefully you took the second option then, and hopefully you noticed that the fact that the water is coming out in two opposite directions, is irrelevant. they don't cancel each other out
 
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#-Riley-# said:
The negative sign is simply giving you the direction of the field
Then what i^ is for?
 
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Well it just goes along with the negative sign to complete the direction. So that you know the field is in completely opposite directions but equal in magnitude on each side of the y axis. Which is the reason you can model it as an infinite plane of charge.
 
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The negative sign and the unit vector i are just notation things. Literally just a mathematical way of saying exactly what your first line was
gracy said:
an electric field is uniform,and in the positive x direction for positive x,and uniform with the same magnitude but in the negative x direction for negative x
 
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so i^ denotes it's about x-axis and negative sign tells more precisely that's it is regarding negative x axis,right?
 
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Yep! Exactly :)
 

What is electric flux?

Electric flux is the measure of the flow of an electric field through a given area. It is calculated by multiplying the strength of the electric field by the area it passes through and the cosine of the angle between the electric field and the area vector.

How is electric flux calculated?

Electric flux is calculated by taking the dot product of the electric field and the area vector. This can be represented mathematically as Φ = E*A*cosθ, where Φ is the electric flux, E is the electric field, A is the area, and θ is the angle between the electric field and the area vector.

What is the formula for electric flux in the case of a cylinder?

The formula for electric flux in the case of a cylinder is Φ = E*2πrh, where Φ is the electric flux, E is the electric field, r is the radius of the cylinder, and h is the height of the cylinder.

How does the electric field affect the electric flux in a cylinder?

The electric field affects the electric flux in a cylinder by determining the strength and direction of the flux. A stronger electric field will result in a higher electric flux, while a weaker electric field will result in a lower electric flux. The direction of the electric field also affects the direction of the electric flux.

What factors can affect the calculation of electric flux in a cylinder?

The calculation of electric flux in a cylinder can be affected by the strength and direction of the electric field, the size and shape of the cylinder, and the angle between the electric field and the area vector. Additionally, the presence of other nearby charges or insulating materials can also affect the electric flux calculation.

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