Electron Config. for Sg+2: Explained

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the electron configuration for the Sg+2 ion, specifically addressing the correct arrangement of electrons in relation to energy levels of orbitals. Participants explore the implications of electron removal from different orbitals, including 7s, 6d, and 5f, and the reasoning behind these configurations.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests the electron configuration for Sg+2 is [Rn] 7s2, 5f14, 6d2, but questions this in light of a conflicting answer of [Rn] 5f14, 6d4.
  • Another participant proposes that if the answer is correct, it indicates that the 7s-shell valence orbitals are at a higher energy than the 6d or 5f orbitals, though they express uncertainty about the calculations.
  • A participant draws an analogy with transition metals, expecting that 7s electrons would be lost first, questioning the reasoning for prioritizing 6d electrons.
  • One participant admits to a lack of understanding regarding electron orbitals and speculates that the highest energy level electrons are removed first.
  • Another participant confirms that electrons in an atom are arranged from lowest to highest energy, suggesting that if 7s orbitals are indeed at a higher energy, then 6d and 5f orbitals would fill before 7s.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the energy levels of the orbitals and the order of electron removal, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the energy levels of the orbitals and the specific calculations that lead to the differing electron configurations. The discussion reflects varying levels of understanding about electron orbitals and their energy arrangements.

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Homework Statement



For Sg+2 what is the electron configuration.


The Attempt at a Solution



My immediate response would be [Rn] 7s2, 5f14, 6d2
but the answer is [Rn] is 5f14 6d4

Can someone explain this to me?
 
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If the answer is correct, this means the math works out that the 7s-shell valance orbitals are at an actually higher energy than the 6d or 5f orbitals. I think this might be the answer, but I'm not familiar enough with calculations to say for sure.
 
Per analogy with transition metals I would expect 7s electrons to be lost first. Why makes you think it should be 6d?
 
I suppose I don't fully understand electron orbitals concept. Upon a little more brain digging, we remove heighest energy level electrons first?
 
Yes, the electrons in an atom in its ground state are arranged in the orbitals from lowest energy to highest. If the 7s orbitals happen to be at a higher energy than the 6d or 5f orbitals, then the 6d and 5f orbitals would fill up before the 6s orbital fills up.
 

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