Engineering Dynamics: Solving Train Decel on Slope

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The discussion focuses on calculating the deceleration of a 160-Mg train climbing a slope at 80 km/h, given specific traction and resistance forces. Participants emphasize the importance of correctly summing forces in both x and y directions while considering the slope's angle. A common issue noted is the miscalculation of forces, particularly the traction force, which should be accurately represented in the equations. The need for clear reasoning and proper vector breakdown is highlighted to avoid errors in dynamics problems. Overall, the conversation aims to establish a reliable method for tackling similar engineering dynamics challenges.
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Homework Statement


The 160-Mg train travels with a speed of 80 kmlh when it starts to climb the slope. If the engine exerts a traction force F of 1120 of the weight of the train and the rolling resistance F D is equal to 1/500 of the weight of the train, determine the deceleration of the train. slope is y=1 and x=10
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Homework Equations


I summed the forces in the x and y directions because it is going up a slope.

The Attempt at a Solution


the solution I keep getting is in the right direction, but is 1.0m/s^2 off. i.e. -1.5m/s^2 roughly.
 
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The engine exerts a traction force of F(1/20) of the weight of the train. Not 1120
 
Show your work. Simply telling us the wrong answer you got isn't very helpful in seeing where you might have gone wrong.
 
∑F(x)=Fcos(5.7)-F(Resistance)cos(5.7)-F(Normal)cos(84.3)-mg*cos(84.3)=ma
∑F(y)=Fsin(5.7)-F(Resistance)sin(5.7)+F(Normal)sin(84.3)-mg*sin(84.3)=ma

I uploaded a free-body diagram.
 

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Can you explain your reasoning behind the equations?
 
Well I wanted to prove that the axis didn't need to be rotated. It certainly makes things easier if you do, but I wanted to break everything down into components to get a better understanding of how all of the forces are represented in the problem by using vectors. I want a fool proof way to begin dynamics. I did the above equation way wrong. I didn't give acceleration components for x or y most importantly.

I'm just trying to find a common approach to problems. Pulleys are different.
 
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