Expectation Value of Composite System

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Homework Statement


System of 2 particles with spin 1/2. Let
<br /> \vert + \rangle =<br /> \begin{pmatrix}<br /> 0 \\<br /> 1<br /> \end{pmatrix} \\<br /> \vert - \rangle =<br /> \begin{pmatrix}<br /> 1 \\<br /> 0<br /> \end{pmatrix}<br />

singlet state <br /> \vert \Phi \rangle = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} \Big( \vert + \rangle \otimes \vert - \rangle - \vert - \rangle \otimes \vert + \rangle \Big)<br />
observables:
<br /> (2 \vec{a} \vec{S}^1) \otimes 1 \\<br /> (2 \vec{a} \vec{S}^1) \otimes (2 \vec{b} \vec{S}^2)<br />
for arbitraty a,b

Homework Equations


<br /> S_x^i=<br /> \begin{pmatrix}<br /> 0 &amp; 1\\<br /> 1 &amp; 0<br /> \end{pmatrix}<br />
and similar for S_y and S_z

The Attempt at a Solution


I have to calculate
<br /> \langle \Phi \vert(2 \vec{a} \vec{S}^1) \otimes 1 \vert \Phi \rangle<br />
in the first task. Does the tensor product notation of Phi means that particle A is in state + and particle B is in state - or the other way round?
Does the 1 in the observable means that the state of B is simply ignored in the meaurement?
So does the first case simplify to
<br /> \langle + \vert a_1 \hat S_x +a_2 \hat S_y +a_3 \hat S_z \vert + \rangle -<br /> \langle - \vert a_1 \hat S_x +a_2 \hat S_y +a_3 \hat S_z \vert - \rangle<br />
and the expectation value becomes zero, as expected for the singlet state
 
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Sci said:
Does the tensor product notation of Phi means that particle A is in state + and particle B is in state - or the other way round?

The state ##|+\rangle \otimes |-\rangle## is the state with the first particle in the + state and the second particle in the - state. The singlet state ##|\Phi\rangle## that you have is a linear combination of ##|+\rangle \otimes |-\rangle## and ##|-\rangle \otimes |+\rangle##.

Sci said:
Does the 1 in the observable means that the state of B is simply ignored in the meaurement?

In general:
$$
(\hat A\otimes \hat B)(|a\rangle \otimes |b\rangle) = (\hat A |a\rangle) \otimes (\hat B |b\rangle).
$$
This should help you solve your problem.
 
Thank you!
I am still confused about the basic rules
<br /> (\langle + \vert \otimes \langle - \vert )( \vec{S} \vec{a} \otimes 1 ) (\vert + \rangle \otimes \vert - \rangle ) \\<br /> -(\langle + \vert \otimes \langle - \vert )( \vec{S} \vec{a} \otimes 1 ) (\vert - \rangle \otimes \vert + \rangle )\\<br /> -(\langle - \vert \otimes \langle + \vert )( \vec{S} \vec{a} \otimes 1 ) (\vert + \rangle \otimes \vert - \rangle )\\<br /> +(\langle - \vert \otimes \langle + \vert )( \vec{S} \vec{a} \otimes 1 ) (\vert - \rangle \otimes \vert + \rangle )<br />
using your rule
<br /> (\langle + \vert \otimes \langle - \vert )( \vec{S} \vec{a}\vert + \rangle \otimes 1\vert - \rangle ) + others<br />
can I do the following step;
<br /> (\langle + \vert \vec{S} \vec{a}\vert + \rangle \otimes \langle - \vert 1 \vert - \rangle) + others<br />

the tensor product doesn't mke sense here...
 
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When taking the inner product between two states, you simply get the product of the inner products on the separate spaces:
$$
(\langle a'|\otimes\langle b'|)(|a\rangle\otimes |b\rangle)
= \langle a'|a\rangle \langle b'|b\rangle
$$
There is no need to keep the tensor product and as you say it makes little sense to do so.

Edit: that said, you are otherwise on the right track.
 
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