Exponential forms of cos and sin

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The discussion revolves around proving trigonometric identities using the exponential forms of sine and cosine as presented in a mathematics textbook. The specific identities in question include the sine addition formula.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the correct forms of the exponential representations of sine and cosine, with some attempting to manipulate these forms to derive the sine addition formula. There are questions about the placement of terms and the properties of exponentials.

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The conversation has seen attempts to clarify the exponential forms and their application to the problem. Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the proof, while others have expressed confusion regarding notation and terminology.

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There is a noted distinction between the use of 'i' and 'j' in different fields, which may affect participants' understanding and application of the concepts being discussed.

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hi, my question is from Modern Engineering Mathematics by Glyn James

pg 177 # 17a

Using the exponential forms of cos(theta) and sin(theta) given in (3.11a, b), prove the following trigonometric identities:
a) sin(x + y) = sin(x)cos(y) + cos(x)sin(y)

and 3.11a is:
cos(x) = 0.5*[ e^(jx) + e^(-jx) ] where x= theta
and 3.11b is:
sin(x) = 0.5j*[ e^(jx) - e^(-jx) ] where x= theta

i've gotten to the point where i have
[ e^j(x+y) + e^j(x-y) -e^j(y-x) -e^-j(x + y) ] / 2j
 
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3.11b should be

sin(x) = 0.5*[ e^(jx) - e^(-jx) ]/j

or

sin(x) = -0.5j*[ e^(jx) - e^(-jx) ]

What you want to do here is start with the expression 3.11b of sin(x+y), then use the property of the exponential that exp(x+y)=exp(x)exp(y) and then transform the exponentials back into sin and cos form. Then the real part of that is sin(x+y) (and the imaginary part equals 0).
 
whoops i meant for the j to be on the bottom for 3.11b

its like
[1/(2j)][ e^(jx) - e^(-jx) ]
 
weee i got it thanks for the help!
 
Oh, those engineers and their jmagjnary numbers!
 
hello my physics chums,
hows your equations looking? I want somebody to love me.

kevmyster
 
HallsofIvy said:
Oh, those engineers and their jmagjnary numbers!

Yes that's a pain in the ..., always confusion between i and j.
 
HallsofIvy said:
Oh, those engineers and their jmagjnary numbers!

In electrical engineering, i means electric current so imaginary numbers are written as j. I remember j was first introduced in the "Elementary linear circuit analysis" class and then all engineering classes use j instead of i. Yes, when reading mathematics or physics paper, I need to switch to i mode. And, mathematicians and physicists write Fourier transform in a confusing form
 

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