Find Current in a Solenoid Given Magnetic Field and Velocity

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The problem involves calculating the current in a solenoid based on the motion of an electron within it. The electron is moving at a specified speed and radius, while the magnetic field of the solenoid is perpendicular to its path. The solenoid has a defined number of turns per unit length.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the magnetic field and the parameters of the electron's motion, questioning the relevance of the force calculation. There is an emphasis on identifying the correct equations that relate the magnetic field to the charge, mass, velocity, and radius of the electron's path.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on distinguishing between the total number of turns and the turns per unit length, suggesting that this distinction is crucial for the calculations. Others are exploring the connection between centripetal force and magnetic force as a potential approach to the problem.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion regarding the use of variables and units in the calculations, particularly the distinction between N (total number of turns) and n (turns per unit length). Participants are also encouraged to ensure unit consistency in their calculations.

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Homework Statement


An electron circles at a speed of 8510 m/s in a
radius of 2.42 cm in a solenoid. The magnetic
field of the solenoid is perpendicular to the
plane of the electron’s path. Find the current in the solenoid if it has
23.3 turns/cm.
Answer in units of mA


Homework Equations


I think you can use B=uIN
I=B/(uN)
u is the universal vacuum permittivity constant, n is the number of turns

The Attempt at a Solution


I already calculated force to be 2e-6.
There are 56.386 turns total because 23.3*2.42
so I got 2e-6/(4pi*10^-7*56.386)=0.02822
so 28.22 mA
I punched this in and it was wrong.
Did I do something weird?
 
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elitepro said:

Homework Statement


An electron circles at a speed of 8510 m/s in a
radius of 2.42 cm in a solenoid. The magnetic
field of the solenoid is perpendicular to the
plane of the electron’s path. Find the current in the solenoid if it has
23.3 turns/cm.
Answer in units of mA

Homework Equations


I think you can use B=uIN
I=B/(uN)
u is the universal vacuum permittivity constant, n is the number of turns

The Attempt at a Solution


I already calculated force to be 2e-6.
There are 56.386 turns total because 23.3*2.42
so I got 2e-6/(4pi*10^-7*56.386)=0.02822
so 28.22 mA
I punched this in and it was wrong.
Did I do something weird?

1. why calculate the force? your first task is to determine B. what relates B to q, m, v and R, all of which are given to you or known?

2. your calculation of no. of turns does not make sense to me. Your formula for B is correct if you replace N, the number of turns, by n, the no. of turns per unit length. n is also given to you.
Be careful to distinguish between N and n. When you have B you can calculate the current from that formula.

Watch your units!
 
rude man said:
what relates B to q, m, v and R, all of which are given to you or known?
What equation relates these variables? I can't find one that does
 
How about centripetal force in circular motion = magnetic force?
 

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