Find the order of magnitude of the electrostatic force

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The discussion centers on calculating the electrostatic force between two students, John and Mary, who have a slight charge imbalance. The calculations involve determining the number of protons in each student based on their mass and then applying the electrostatic force formula, resulting in a force of approximately 1.16 x 10^18 N. A key point of contention is whether to multiply by 10 or 18 when calculating the number of protons per water molecule, with the original poster favoring 10. The conversation suggests a possible misunderstanding regarding the composition of water molecules, indicating that the professor may have considered a different aspect of molecular structure.
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Homework Statement


Two engineering students, John with a mass of 90 kg and Mary with a mass of 45 kg, are 30 m apart. Suppose each has a 0.01% imbalance in the amount of positive and negative charge, with one student being positive and the other negative. Find the order of magnitude of the electrostatic force of attraction between them by replacing each student with a sphere of water having the same mass as the student.


Homework Equations


F = kq1q2/r^2


The Attempt at a Solution



I solved this problem by finding the total number of protons and positive charge associated with them in John:

90000 g / 18 g/mol = 5000 mol x Avogadro's number = 3.01 x 10^27 molecules
then I multiplied by 10 protons/molecule to get 3 x 10^28 protons.
I multiplied this by the charge of a proton and got 4.82 x 10^9 C.
I multiplied by 0.0001 and got 482202 C of positive charge.

I did the same for Mary and got 240000 C of negative charge.

When plugged into the electrostatic force equation, I got 1.16 x 10^18 N.

However, in my professor's answer key, after he finds the number of water molecules, he multiplies by 18 and not 10. It seems like a mistake to me, but am I missing something? Should I multiple by 10 or 18 in this step?

Thanks!
 
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mm2424 said:

Homework Statement


Two engineering students, John with a mass of 90 kg and Mary with a mass of 45 kg, are 30 m apart. Suppose each has a 0.01% imbalance in the amount of positive and negative charge, with one student being positive and the other negative. Find the order of magnitude of the electrostatic force of attraction between them by replacing each student with a sphere of water having the same mass as the student.

Homework Equations


F = kq1q2/r^2

The Attempt at a Solution



I solved this problem by finding the total number of protons and positive charge associated with them in John:

90000 g / 18 g/mol = 5000 mol x Avogadro's number = 3.01 x 10^27 molecules
then I multiplied by 10 protons/molecule to get 3 x 10^28 protons.
I multiplied this by the charge of a proton and got 4.82 x 10^9 C.
I multiplied by 0.0001 and got 482202 C of positive charge.

I did the same for Mary and got 240000 C of negative charge.

When plugged into the electrostatic force equation, I got 1.16 x 10^18 N.

However, in my professor's answer key, after he finds the number of water molecules, he multiplies by 18 and not 10. It seems like a mistake to me, but am I missing something? Should I multiple by 10 or 18 in this step?

Thanks!

I like your 10.

Perhaps your professor was thinking of an oxygen molecule plus a water molecule, rather than a water molecule??
 
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