Finding electric flux through the circular cap of a sphere

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To find the electric flux through a circular cap of a sphere surrounding a charged particle, the correct approach involves calculating the electric field and the area of the cap accurately. The initial calculations yielded an incorrect flux due to the use of an inappropriate formula for the area of the cap. The correct area formula incorporates both the height and radius of the cap, while the flux can also be determined by calculating the solid angle of the cone formed by the cap. By understanding the relationship between the solid angle and the total flux of the sphere, the correct answer can be derived. Ultimately, applying these concepts led to the successful calculation of the electric flux.
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Homework Statement


A sphere of radius R = 1.40 m surrounds a particle with charge Q = 42.0 μC located at its center as shown in the figure below. Find the electric flux through a circular cap of half-angle θ = 28.0°.
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Homework Equations


Φ = ∫E⋅dA
E
= (kq)/r2
A = πa2 where a = rsin(θ) --> from Archimedes's formula for area of a spherical cap [excluding the h term since it is along the surface]).

The Attempt at a Solution


First thing I did was calculate the electric field, using E = (kq)/r2 obtaining 1.928x105 N/C. Then using A = πa2 I found the area to be 1.357 m2. Finally using the flux equation I obtained Φ = 2.62x105 Nm2/C. This answer is incorrect and the correct answer is given as 2.78x105 Nm2/C. I am unsure my method is correct. Any suggestions?
 
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quaticle said:
[excluding the h term since it is along the surface]
Not sure what you mean, but h is not zero.
 
Doc Al said:
Not sure what you mean, but h is not zero.
I wasn't sure if the h (height) variable was needed since the portion I am supposed to calculate the flux through is a flat area on the surface of the sphere. I wasn't sure how to find the area of that, and through searches found Archimedes' formula shown in the op. I just re-calculated and when taking the height to be r*cos(θ) I am further from the correct answer. We haven't used the formula before, I had found it an assumed it suitable for these circumstances but do not think it is useful anymore...
 
quaticle said:
I wasn't sure if the h (height) variable was needed since the portion I am supposed to calculate the flux through is a flat area on the surface of the sphere.
Realize that you need the component of the field perpendicular to whatever area you choose. Using the spherical cap makes that easy.

quaticle said:
I just re-calculated and when taking the height to be r*cos(θ) I am further from the correct answer.
That's not the height.

Even better than all this: What fraction of the total flux goes through that cone of angle θ? (Think in terms of solid angles.)
 
quaticle said:

Homework Statement


A sphere of radius R = 1.40 m surrounds a particle with charge Q = 42.0 μC located at its center as shown in the figure below. Find the electric flux through a circular cap of half-angle θ = 28.0°.
24-p-051.gif
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Homework Equations


Φ = ∫E⋅dA
E
= (kq)/r2
A = πa2 where a = rsin(θ) --> from Archimedes's formula for area of a spherical cap [excluding the h term since it is along the surface]).
?

You have used wrong formula for the surface area of the cap. It is A=pi(h2+a2) where a is the radius of the cap and h is its high. a= Rsin(θ) and h = R(1-cos(θ))
 
Doc Al said:
Even better than all this: What fraction of the total flux goes through that cone of angle θ? (Think in terms of solid angles.)
The fraction of flux we are interested in goes through θ°/360°, right? So find the total flux like one normally would then find that fraction of it?
 
quaticle said:
The fraction of flux we are interested in goes through θ°/360°, right? So find the total flux like one normally would then find that fraction of it?
Almost. But it's a sphere, not a circle. Hint: How many steradians make up a sphere?
 
Doc Al said:
Almost. But it's a sphere, not a circle. Hint: How many steradians make up a sphere?
I am not sure what a steradian is, but a quick google search tells me 4π steradians are in a sphere. Do I then multiple the fraction by 4π?
 
quaticle said:
I am not sure what a steradian is, but a quick google search tells me 4π steradians are in a sphere.
Good.

quaticle said:
Do I then multiple the fraction by 4π?
First you need to know how many steradians are in that cone of angle θ. Then find what fraction that is of the whole sphere.
 
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Doc Al said:
First you need to know how many steradians are in that cone of angle θ. Then find what fraction that is of the whole sphere.
And this can be done using Ω = 2π(1-cos(θ)) ? This will give me the solid angle of the cone and then I divide that by the total sr of a sphere (4π) to obtain the fraction of the whole through which the flux I need flows...
 
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quaticle said:
And this can be done using Ω = 2π(1-cos(θ)) ? This will give me the solid angle of the cone and then I divide that by the total sr of a sphere (4π) to obtain the fraction of the whole through which the flux I need flows...
Yes.
 
  • #12
Doc Al said:
Yes.
Awesome thanks a lot, using these ideas I was able to obtain the correct answer!
 
  • #13
Cool. :smile:
 
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