Finding flux from apparent and absolute magnitude

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The discussion revolves around calculating the flux of a star based on its apparent and absolute magnitudes, specifically comparing it to the Sun. The context includes concepts from astrophysics related to luminosity and flux ratios.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the relationship between absolute and apparent magnitudes and how this affects the calculation of flux. Some participants question the validity of assuming equal luminosity based on absolute magnitudes, while others explore the implications of known distances and magnitudes on flux calculations.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the relationships between magnitudes and flux. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need for reference points in calculations, and there is an ongoing exploration of how to manipulate flux ratios.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of using apparent magnitudes without a reference point and the implications of known absolute magnitudes and distances in their calculations.

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How much flux reaches Earth from an unobscured star?

##m_{sun} = -26.83## and ##M_{sun} = +4.74##
##m = +6## and ##M = +4.74##

Calculated distance of target star:

##d = 17.86 pc##

Now, here I'm trying to find the flux of a star that has the same absolute magnitude as our sun, but has an apparent magnitude of 6.

Does it make sense to assume that because their absolute mags are the same, that the ratio of their luminosities should be 1? Further more, under that assumption, I understand how to calculate the ratio of their fluxes (sun to star), but I am a bit lost when trying to calculate their fluxes independently...
 
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Yes, if the stars have the same absolute magnitude, they have the same luminosity.
 
You can't calculate the flux from apparent magnitude independently. You need some reference point. The apparent magnitudes of two sources are related by
$$m - m_\text{ref} = -2.5 \log \frac{F}{F_\text{ref}}$$ where F is the flux and the subscript ref refers to a known reference.
 
But what if the absolute magnitudes and distances of those stars are known?
 
Is there not some way to manipulate the flux ratio so that you can calculate the fluxes of each star?
 
No. If all you have is, for example, ##F/F_\text{ref} = 2##, there's no way to differentiate between the case where (neglecting units) ##F=1## and ##F_\text{ref} = 1/2## and where ##F=2## and ##F_\text{ref}=1##. You have only one equation but two unknowns.
 
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