Finding nearest neighbour equilibrium distance

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The problem involves calculating the nearest neighbor equilibrium distance for a CsCl crystal structure, with a focus on the energy per ion expressed in a specific formula. The context is rooted in solid-state physics and crystallography.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the structure of CsCl, with one suggesting it is a simple cubic lattice and questioning if the nearest neighbor distance is simply the lattice parameter. Others raise concerns about the completeness of the problem statement, particularly regarding the definition of variables and the need for differentiation to find equilibrium.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the implications of the energy equation and the method for determining the equilibrium distance. There is recognition that further clarification is needed regarding the problem's parameters and the approach to take.

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Some participants note potential typos in the problem statement and express uncertainty about the definitions and derivatives required for solving the problem. The original poster has reiterated the problem as presented in the assignment.

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Homework Statement


The energy per ion in for CsCl is nearly – (αe 2 /(4πε0)) + 8Ae -(R/ρ) , where α is the Madelung constant and A = 5.64 x 103 eV and ρ = 0.34 Å. Calculate the nearest neighbour equilibrium distance.

Homework Equations


alpha = 2 ln 2

The Attempt at a Solution


I think that CsCl is a simple cubic structure
I found online

For a simple cubic lattice, it is clear that the nearest neighbor distance is just the lattice parameter, a. Therefore, for a simple cubic lattice there are six (6) nearest neighbors for any given lattice point.

so then my answer would be 0.34 A ? Is this correct ?
 
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The first line of the problem statement appears incomplete. I don't see any definition of ## R ## and also what do you take a derivative of to set it equal to zero? It looks like you may have a typo or two in your equation.
 
Charles Link said:
The first line of the problem statement appears incomplete. I don't see any definition of ## R ## and also what do you take a derivative of to set it equal to zero? It looks like you may have a typo or two in your equation.
That's the entire problem copied and pasted from the assignment.

I'm not sure what you mean by what do I take the derivative of ?
 
Cocoleia said:
That's the entire problem copied and pasted from the assignment.

I'm not sure what you mean by what do I take the derivative of ?
The equilibrium distance for a system is normally found as the position where the potential energy is a minimum, so that ## \frac{dV}{dR}=0 ##. ## \\ ## Consider for example a mass on a spring in a gravitational field.: ## U=\frac{1}{2}kx^2+mgx ## . Taking derivative and setting equal to zero: ## kx+mg=0 ## ==>> ## x_{equilibrium}=-\frac{mg}{k} ##, which the spring constant equation also tells you the forces are balanced there.
 
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Charles Link said:
The equilibrium distance for a system is normally found as the position where the potential energy is a minimum, so that ## \frac{dV}{dR}=0 ##. ## \\ ## Consider for example a mass on a spring in a gravitational field.: ## U=\frac{1}{2}kx^2+mgx ## . Taking derivative and setting equal to zero: ## kx+mg=0 ## ==>> ## x_{equilibrium}=-\frac{mg}{k} ##, which the spring constant equation also tells you the forces are balanced there.
Ok so it is not enough to say
For a simple cubic lattice, it is clear that the nearest neighbor distance is just the lattice parameter, a.

I would have to derive the energy equation that is given to me and set =0
 
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