Finding rate of relativistic work, special relativity.

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The discussion revolves around a problem in special relativity concerning the rate of relativistic work, specifically focusing on the relationship between energy, relativistic mass, and velocity. The original poster attempts to derive a specific expression for the rate of energy change with respect to time.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to substitute the expression for relativistic mass into the energy rate equation and applies the chain rule, but encounters difficulties in simplifying the resulting expression. Some participants question the notation used for mass and suggest clarifying the terms involved.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the notation and mathematical treatment of the problem. There is recognition of ambiguity in the problem statement, and some participants express agreement on the need for clarification regarding the treatment of mass as a scalar versus a vector.

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There are indications of ambiguity in the problem statement, particularly regarding the notation for relativistic mass and its implications for the calculations. Participants are exploring these nuances without reaching a consensus on the correct interpretation.

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Hello all,

Homework Statement


Given \frac{dE}{dt}=\frac{d(m(u))}{dt}\cdot u
show that \frac{dE}{dt}=\frac{m_0}{(1-u^2)^{\frac{3}{2}}}u\frac{du}{dt}
where u is velocity, m(u) is relativistic mass, and m_0 is rest mass.

Homework Equations


m(u)=\frac{m_0}{\sqrt{1-u^2}}

The Attempt at a Solution


Substituting in m(u) gives \frac{dE}{dt} = \frac{d}{dt}(\frac{m_0}{\sqrt{1-u^2}})\cdot u
Using the chain rule
= \frac{d}{du}(\frac{m_0}{\sqrt{1-u^2}})\frac{du}{dt}\cdot u
= \frac{m_0 u}{(1-u^2)^{3/2}}\frac{du}{dt} \cdot u
From here I get into trouble. My first thought was since u should be parallel to \frac{du}{dt} the dot product just becomes multiplication, but then there's an extra u factor. Any help from here would be greatly appreciated.
 
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The problem statement is ambiguous. The quantity in parenthesis should be written as mu, and not m(u). More precisely, it should be moγu.
 
I don't think the relativistic mass should be a vector, so that dot must be just an ordinary product between two scalars. I do agree that the problem seems a little strange.
 
That makes much more sense, thanks for the help guys
 

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