Finding the Coefficient of friction

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To find the coefficient of friction for a sled being pulled at a uniform speed, the tension in the rope and the sled's mass are crucial. The calculations involve resolving forces into components, with the normal force adjusted by the vertical component of the tension. The initial attempt yielded an incorrect coefficient of 0.8319 due to a misunderstanding of the normal force calculation. After corrections, the accurate coefficient of friction was determined to be approximately 0.0874. The discussion emphasizes the importance of careful calculations and understanding the component method in physics problems.
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Homework Statement



A 135 kg sled is being pulled along a horizontal surface at a uniform speed by means of a rope making an angle of 19.3 degrees with the horiontal. If the tension in the rope is 119 N Find the Coefficient of friction.

Homework Equations



u=Ff/Fn

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I have never done a question like this before but i fugured i probably had to find the force from the horizontal..im not sure if i did it right but i used trig to find that force and i got 112.3 N i then put that in the formula U=112.3/135 and i got 0.8319 but I really have no idea if i did it right.
 
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You are correct. \mu F=F_{f} so the ratio of the 2 must be the coefficient of friction. I also checked and our numbers match.
 
djeitnstine said:
You are correct. \mu F=F_{f} so the ratio of the 2 must be the coefficient of friction. I also checked and our numbers match.

Awsome...Thanks
 
But don't forget that the weight of the block is not 135 N; its mass is 135 Kg. Also, the normal force fron the weight is offset by the upward component of the pulling force.
 
HI i don't really get how u get u=112.3/135
do you use the component method?
here are my calculations...please tell me if they are right
y components
Fnet=Tensiony +Fnormal - Forcegravity
0 =119*sin19.3 + Fnormal -135*9.8
Fnormal= 135*9.8 -119*sin19.3
=1362.33N
Ff=1362.33*u
x components
Fnet= Fappx-Ff
135*a=119cos19.3 - 1362.33
0=119Cos19.3 - 1362.33 (because constant velocity, so acceleration= 0)
U=119Cos19.3/1362.33
=0.0824

I am in grade 12 and I understand tht grade 12 and grade 11 methods are different, but please tell me what i did wrong and why i am not getting the right answer. THank you
 
cad8 said:
HI i don't really get how u get u=112.3/135
do you use the component method?
here are my calculations...please tell me if they are right
y components
Fnet=Tensiony +Fnormal - Forcegravity
0 =119*sin19.3 + Fnormal -135*9.8
Fnormal= 135*9.8 -119*sin19.3
=1362.33N
Ff=1362.33*u
x components
Fnet= Fappx-Ff
135*a=119cos19.3 - 1362.33
0=119Cos19.3 - 1362.33 (because constant velocity, so acceleration= 0)
U=119Cos19.3/1362.33
=0.0824

I am in grade 12 and I understand tht grade 12 and grade 11 methods are different, but please tell me what i did wrong and why i am not getting the right answer. THank you

You are on the right track i had my teacher explain it to me and the answer is actually 0.0874
 
cad8 said:
HI i don't really get how u get u=112.3/135
do you use the component method?
here are my calculations...please tell me if they are right
y components
Fnet=Tensiony +Fnormal - Forcegravity
0 =119*sin19.3 + Fnormal -135*9.8
Fnormal= 135*9.8 -119*sin19.3
=1362.33Nyou made a simple math error here that carries through the rest of the problem[/color]
Ff=1362.33*u
x components
Fnet= Fappx-Ff
135*a=119cos19.3 - 1362.33
0=119Cos19.3 - 1362.33 (because constant velocity, so acceleration= 0)
U=119Cos19.3/1362.33
=0.0824

I am in grade 12 and I understand tht grade 12 and grade 11 methods are different, but please tell me what i did wrong and why i am not getting the right answer. THank you
see note above on math error; otherwise your method is very good.
 
thanks guys...appreciate your help
 
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