Finding the limit of trignometric functions

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The discussion focuses on finding the limit of (h sin h)/(1 - cos h) as h approaches 0. Participants suggest breaking the limit into parts using known limits, specifically lim h->0 (sin h)/h = 1 and lim h->0 (1 + cos h) = 2. The conversation highlights confusion around the relationship between h/sin h and sin h/h, clarifying that the limit of h/sin h as h approaches 0 is indeed 1. Some participants note that using L'Hôpital's Rule could simplify the problem, but the original poster has not yet learned this method. Ultimately, the limit is confirmed to be 2.
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Homework Statement



Find the Limit: lim h->0 of ( h sin h)/ ( 1-cos h)

Homework Equations



lim h->0 of (sin theta)/ theta = 1
lim h->0 of (cos(h)-1)/h=0

The Attempt at a Solution


lim h->0 (h/1-cos h)*(sin h) * (1+cos h/ 1 +cos h)

= lim h->0 (h(1+cos h) * sin h)/(1-cos^2 h)

= lim h->0 (h(1+cos h))/sin h

That's how far I got, I have no idea how to continue.
Please and thank you!

 
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panadaeyes said:

Homework Statement



Find the Limit: lim h->0 of ( h sin h)/ ( 1-cos h)

Homework Equations



lim h->0 of (sin theta)/ theta = 1
lim h->0 of (cos(h)-1)/h=0

The Attempt at a Solution


lim h->0 (h/1-cos h)*(sin h) * (1+cos h/ 1 +cos h)

= lim h->0 (h(1+cos h) * sin h)/(1-cos^2 h)

= lim h->0 (h(1+cos h))/sin h

That's how far I got, I have no idea how to continue.
Please and thank you!
You're almost there!
=\lim_{h \to 0} \frac{h}{sin(h)}\cdot (1 + cos(h))

You can break up the limit of a product to the product of limits, provided that both limits exist. Hint: look at your relevant equations.
 
Mark44 said:
You're almost there!
=\lim_{h \to 0} \frac{h}{sin(h)}\cdot (1 + cos(h))

You can break up the limit of a product to the product of limits, provided that both limits exist. Hint: look at your relevant equations.

Okay, so I split them up, but would the equation: lim h->0 of sin h/ h = 1 be the same as the lim h->0 of h/sin h?? how does that work?

and therefore be: 1 * lim h->0 (1+ cos h)
= 1 * 2 = 2?
 
Yup, I get 2 also.

If you know limh→0 h/sinh = 1 then you know that
limh→0 (sinh/h)-1 = 1.

But (sinh/h)-1 = 1 ⇒ (sinh/h)= 1


Edit: You don’t know l’hopital’s rule right? If you do this is a rather round-about way to do this problem.
 
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JonF said:
Yup, I get 2 also.
Agreed.
JonF said:
If you know limh→0 h/sinh = 1 then you know that
limh→0 (sinh/h)-1 = 1.

But (sinh/h)-1 = 1 ⇒ (sinh/h)= 1
Not sure what the missing symbol is - implies?
But sinh/h \neq 1. The limit as h -> 0 is 1, though.
JonF said:
Edit: You don’t know l’hopital’s rule right? If you do this is a rather round-about way to do this problem.
But if the OP doesn't know L'Hopital's Rule, this is the way to go.
 
Yah, I haven't learned L'Hopital's Rule yet

But thanks guys!
 
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