Finding the smallest resistance on a I-V graph

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The discussion centers on determining the smallest resistance from an I-V graph using the formula V=IR. Participants clarify that the correct method involves drawing a line from the origin to the points on the graph, specifically identifying point C as having the largest gradient, which corresponds to the smallest resistance. The confusion arises from the difference between using tangents at points on the curve versus the gradient of the line from the origin, emphasizing that resistance is defined as the ratio of voltage to current (R=V/I), not the rate of change.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Ohm's Law (V=IR)
  • Familiarity with graph interpretation and gradients
  • Knowledge of linear equations and their slopes
  • Basic concepts of electrical resistance
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Homework Statement


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Ok, so I did this..
V=IR
I=(1/R)V, gradient is (1/R) -> y=mx+c
So in order to have the smallest resistance, we choose the point on the graph that has the largest gradient, which I chose B, because the tangent on the graph on point B is the largest, but the correct answer is C. Why?


Homework Equations


V=IR

The Attempt at a Solution


The mark scheme states that we have to draw a line through the origin up to the point on the graph, and the line that has the largest gradient is the right answer, which is point C. But why through the origin? I thought tangent? As we are looking for the gradient?
 
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Janiceleong26 said:

Homework Statement


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Ok, so I did this..
V=IR
I=(1/R)V, gradient is (1/R) -> y=mx+c
So in order to have the smallest resistance, we choose the point on the graph that has the largest gradient, which I chose B, because the tangent on the graph on point B is the largest, but the correct answer is C. Why?

Homework Equations


V=IR

The Attempt at a Solution


The mark scheme states that we have to draw a line through the origin up to the point on the graph, and the line that has the largest gradient is the right answer, which is point C. But why through the origin? I thought tangent? As we are looking for the gradient?

I think you should consider the gradient of lines joining the origin and points A, B, C and D, not the gradient of the curve at these points.
 
C. Lee said:
I think you should consider the gradient of lines joining the origin and each point A, B, C, and D, not the gradient of the curve at these points.
Why line through the origin?
 
Janiceleong26 said:
Why line through the origin?
Sorry that I missed the point.

Think about the relation V=IR again. Does it have any additional constant term in it?
 
C. Lee said:
Sorry that I missed the point.

Think about the relation V=IR again. Does it have any additional constant term in it?

Right.. I see it now. Thanks! But why can't we use tangent on the graph? Like how we use it for v-t graph to find acceleration?
 
Janiceleong26 said:
Right.. I see it now. Thanks! But why can't we use tangent on the graph? Like how we use it for v-t graph to find acceleration?

I think that is because the definition of R and acceleration are somewhat different in two cases.
Acceleration is the rate of change in velocity. But think about R. Is the definition of R the rate of change in V with respect to I?
It is the ratio of V to I, not the rate of change.
Hope this could be the answer for your question. Sorry for my deficient English!
 
V = I*R
so
R= V/I

Note that it's V/I not ΔV/ΔI or dV/dI.

They ask for "the resistance" not something like "the small signal resistance at a bias point"
 
C. Lee said:
I think that is because the definition of R and acceleration are somewhat different in two cases.
Acceleration is the rate of change in velocity. But think about R. Is the definition of R the rate of change in V with respect to I?
It is the ratio of V to I, not the rate of change.
Hope this could be the answer for your question. Sorry for my deficient English!
I see I see. Thanks a lot! No it's alright, my English isn't good either
 
CWatters said:
V = I*R
so
R= V/I

Note that it's V/I not ΔV/ΔI or dV/dI.

They ask for "the resistance" not something like "the small signal resistance at a bias point"
Ooh, ok ok. Thank you !
 

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